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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I was assuming you understood that this was IF "plex" was a thing. I don't support gil farmer RMT. That would be idiotic. It floods the economy and ruins most peoples experience with spam and bots. I apologize I didn't make that clearer.
    You originally said:

    Stating the argument against Dev RMT was the same as Time gating. I explained it wouldn't let you get ahead because the only thing it affected wasn't "time gated" and threw in why I've deduced time gating has been implemented by the devs.


    Does that make it clearer?

    Smarmy comments don't help anything by the way. Please keep those to a minimum and I'll return the courtesy. I've shown you respect and patience in every exchange, have I not?
    I do not understand what you are saying so I will say this to try to work it out. 320! < crafted gear IS BIS in some cases, like how a tank came to me who had a 340 gear on the right ( do not remember how many or what slot) Because of the penta melding. So you are basically buying BIS with RL money and this is a nonissue? For people that realize this, those gear pieces will SKYROCKET to obscene amounts, along with WT gear, and this does not get around time gating? Because now the situation is, you skip whatever you would normally get for the BIS crafted, then focus on getting the time gating gated gear that is bis, and basically gear up faster then most people, other then people that earn gil in game to do basically the same thing. (assuming midcore gil collectors can keep up with the econ being influenced by plex, and that is something I think would turn impossible, just make the gaps of rich and poor bigger)

    I also do not know what "Smarmy comments " or why you are saying this.

    Why are you debating me if you disagree with plex? It will make FFXIV's bad econ worse, and only trying to explain why.
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Watching people defeat their own stance is so much fun <3
    This is smarmy. Unnecessary and smug sounding. That's what I was referring to.


    I'm not sure what confusing language I'm using. I am NOT against PLEX, I am against ILLEGAL RMT's. However I also understand that RMT happens whether or not we want it to and PLEX would funnel the money to a better place AND likely eliminate gil seller spam and bots (somewhat).
    I understand what you're saying, but you're out and out ignoring what I'm expressing: People are already able to buy , with gil, the top tier equipment according to you. This means that with enough effort, anyone can farm Gil and kit out their characters at their own pace. hence it's NOT timegated. TIMEGATED items like tomestone gear CANNOT be affected by RMT , either illegal OR dev run.

    Neither of us knows , for sure , what this would do to the economy because neither of us can fortell the future. But I can say for sure it would reduce illegal RMT and put money in SE's pocket instead since people are definitely WILLING to exchange money for Gil (or the gil sellers wouldn't be doing it) and eliminating the risk of banning would make people much more likely to use the legal channel.

    It would also put a hard value on Gil, which may end up HELPING the economy if people can finally have a reference other than "oh hey.. people are selling this for 2 million right now". IF we had plex they could go "well, 15 dollars buys me 10 million gil, is that minion worth 15 dollars?"
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    This is smarmy. Unnecessary and smug sounding. That's what I was referring to.
    I just wanted to chime in here, real quick. You might have confused her with your choice of adjective; her comments sometimes do run toward smug and patronizing, but that's not what smarmy means.

    Mostly just wanted to point that. As for on topic, I don't have very strong opinions either way. A Plex system would be a nice convenience and a good way to combat RMTs, but I think FF14 would survive fine without it. All these Chicken Littles running around and saying how it would herald the end of the world did give me a good chuckle though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    I do not understand what you are saying so I will say this to try to work it out. 320! < crafted gear IS BIS in some cases, like how a tank came to me who had a 340 gear on the right ( do not remember how many or what slot) Because of the penta melding. So you are basically buying BIS with RL money and this is a nonissue?
    A few more steps involved than just "spend RL money, buy gear".

    Like, oh, actually selling the game time token.

    Then finding someone selling the gear you want to buy.

    You're also presenting the image that it is the person selling the gear, and not SE, that gets the RL money. They would get their sub money, have no fear. The person selling the gear would get the gil you spent on it, regardless of where that gil came from, as someone else was pointing out above.

    Also, having that gear be BiS is not the fault of the game token, nor for that matter, the guy who runs tank and sells the Materia from the Cracked Clusters to get that gil, nor the woman who crafts a lot of stuff to sell to make the gil to buy the gear for her tank.

    Much as I'd love for SE to introduce something like EQ's Krono, I really do not see it happening, mainly due to the extra retainers. Not unless the cost was $27 each (the cost of a month sub time and six retainers).
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