[question] First time DoH looking for advice

[semoac]

Hi.
I'm really enjoying the DoH classes on this game and I been following guides on how to leveling up this classes.

I'm finally done with: BTN 70, MIN 70, Weaver 50, ALC 50, CUL 37 and CRP 50.

I'm broke as fuc!.

What should be my first profession at level 70? In the long run, my goal is to have all classes at level 70.
Blacksmith for the tools? Weaver for the gear? ALC for the recipes? Any tips?

Thanks for your time.

[SirBrighton]

Your first profession at level 70 should always be the one you enjoy using the most. For me it was CUL (because I suck at cooking IRL), and for my friend it was GSM.
One craft isn't blatantly better or more important than the others. If you don't have a personal preference though, just go down the list from top to bottom.

That being said, it will be a lot easier to get to 70 if you have the appropriate cross-class skills to help you make the things to level up, especially if you don't have good crafting gear.
I recommend getting LTW to 50 for Waste Not II, ALC to 50 for Comfort Zone, and CUL to 37 for Hasty Touch and Steady Hand II which will make making things HQ much easier.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Your first profession at level 70 should always be the one you enjoy using the most. For me it was CUL (because I suck at cooking IRL), and for my friend it was GSM.
One craft isn't blatantly better or more important than the others. If you don't have a personal preference though, just go down the list from top to bottom.

Totally agree with this. And both CUL and GSM are extremely good choices because of Muscle Memory (CUL 54) and Maker's Mark (GSM 54).

That being said, it will be a lot easier to get to 70 if you have the appropriate cross-class skills to help you make the things to level up, especially if you don't have good crafting gear. I recommend getting LTW to 50 for Waste Not II, ALC to 50 for Comfort Zone, and CUL to 37 for Hasty Touch and Steady Hand II which will make making things HQ much easier.

Well, personally, I didn't find Waste Not II to be that useful until late-game Heavensward (level 60 end game). WN II is not very flexible to be used together with Tricks of the Trade. You can only afford to spend 1 step during WN II on a non-durab consuming action, which in most cases, we need it for a single Steady Hand II. Thus, you cannot take any Tricks on the remaining 7 steps of WN II, or it'll equal to losing 10 durab for nothing. This inflexibility is biggest weakness of WN II. I only found WN II to be great for macros, since you are not going too be taking any Tricks anyway in macros. Of course, one argument is that any "Good" conditions during WN II can still be utilized by Precise Touch. But this is assuming you have plenty of CP to spare. Anyway, my point is, even without WN II, it is still OK to just use Master's Mend, Waste Not, or other durab-recovery/conserving actions. After all, when semoac reaches level 65, WN II will be replaced by Manipulation II anyway. I'd rather recommend semoac to level BSM to 50 for Ingen2 or ARM to 50 for Piece by Piece due them being useful even at level 70 (especially piece by piece... currently, pretty much ALL Stormblood 2 star rotations require this skill... There's no specialist skills or new Stormblood skills that can replace it.).

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I'm finally done with: BTN 70, MIN 70, Weaver 50, ALC 50, CUL 37 and CRP 50.

I'm broke as fuc!.

If you have BTN and MIN 70, then you should totally get your retainers to have BTN and MIN 70 as well. They will bring you sooo much stuff!
Instead of turning in items for leves, sell them on the MB instead to make money instead of lose money! Tradecraft Leves is for the rich!
With your lvl 50 cross class powers, you should be able to come up with some decent macros for HQ-ing 40 durab items or 35 durab items (crafted mats).
Collect enough raw mats with your retainers, then massively grind the crafted mats. Because they stack in your inventory, you can easy do it ~200 times per session. You can do this for almost every level, and you'll find yourself not needing leves to level up at all. Then with all the HQ crafted mats produced, you can either (1) sell them, (2) use them for making other items on the crafting log for exp and for sale, (3) turn in for leves. With a method like this, you should only be making money instead of losing money. By the time you reach level 70, you will have a lot of extra cash for materia melding. If you burn all your cash too early for leves, you'll find yourself having no money for materia, and unable to touch end-game items. It would be very painful to know that the leveling is done, but unable to proceed due to lack of cash for materia.

P.S. Remember to use food (+3%), Commercial Engineering Manuals (150%) and even FC buffs (+10%) for extra EXP during your crafted mat grind!

[Ksenia]

If broke is your main issue right now, with Mining and Botany to 70 this can be remedied.

All you need to do is google persimmon leaf sushi and look at the parts used in it.
Go to the market board, math the value of all the stuff in it, compare that to the actual persimmon leaf sushi. You already have the current money classes.

In terms of what DoH to level. As said, just go with the one you are entertained by with the intent to level them all. It really doesn't matter.

[Jelly_Baby]

If you have a 70 miner and botanist, the 2 main crafting skills I would work on to MAX first, would be goldsmith (for CP jewellery/easy grinding levels if you farm the materials) and culinarian (craft food to further boost CP/Control/craftsmanship) . Then again, blacksmith can make crafting tools and off-hands for many classes like leatherwork, alchemist, blacksmith, armoursmith and culinarian.

But as most people have said already, levelling up all classes equally for the cross class abilities worth while, especially in the long run!

[ChameleonMS]

I'm finally done with: BTN 70, MIN 70, Weaver 50, ALC 50, CUL 37 and CRP 50.
I'm broke as fuc!.

Yes gathering is great source of income. You just need to research your server's particular market board. You can either go volume or go rarity to find value. Both have about the same efforts in the end.

Volume example:
Many frequently used recipes consume large amounts of low level items. Many crafter are just too lazy to get these materials themselves and will buy it from you.
LTW Glamour Prism (Leatherworking) consumes Toad Leather which is made from Alumen
WVR Worsted Yarn consumes Natron which is made from Effervescent Water

Rarity Example:
A currently high value top tier raid food is Pork Kakuni which is made from a couple or rare components Jhammel Ginger and Dusklight Aethersand. Both of these items are derived from gathering nodes which only appear for a few RL minutes every Eorzean day and have relatively high thresholds to get them.

DoW / DoM characters can earn a large amount of Gil too but require more effort:
DoW Gil Guide
Maps are another great source of income:
Timeworn Dragonskin maps open The Aquapolis and Timeworn Gazelleskin maps open The Lost Canals of Uznair
After an averge MAPs group I usually walk away with 500K - 2M Gil worth of Gil and items.

[Jelly_Baby]

-Snippty Snoopity-

Although really good information, this thread is about which crafting classes to max first. Not how to make money.

What should be my first profession at level 70?

I still think Goldsmith or Culinary since you have 70 bot/miner.

[ChameleonMS]

Although really good information, this thread is about which crafting classes to max first. Not how to make money.

I dare say the post is about both. If being broke was not a concern of OP then the post would not have emphasized that. The statement was given paragraph spacing (clear prominence) and explicative emphasis.
OP is clearly struggling with the issue of paying for the effort of levelling the DoH classes.
We (the experienced crafters) all know, levelling crafters is an expensive time and Gil commitment endeavour.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

TC, level all the classes to 50 first. Then start leveling them all to 60, then to 70.

Rather than making items (or buying them) to hand in for Leves/GC, craft them yourself and then sell them on the board. You can actually turn a decent profit by gathering materials yourself, crafting HQ, and selling the stuff on the board, even low level stuff sells.