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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Renabi Rena
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    Exdeath Enhanced Blizzard III instakill?

    So of course I'm doing the weeklies for D1-4 normal so I can get my Dark Knight geared adequately, and I notice people dropping like flies early on in D4 against Exdeath. This is weird since it doesn't look like people are stacking high vulnerability debuffs before going out either, and there really isn't a one-hit kill move besides the Doom during phase 1. Then I see both of the healers get knocked out and I realize something terrifying; the enhanced Blizzard III is one-shotting players if they fail the mechanic. Normally I actually see a good number of players simply not bother (or not notice) with the Blizzard III mechanic early on since it does very minimal damage even if you fail it, and as long as you avoid stacking the vulnerability it really doesn't make a difference. What's weird is how sometimes the player will be perfectly fine and it will function like it always has, and I can't seem to tell what is triggering this weird instant death scenario.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Shinigami Zetta
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    It depends on people and their gear, honestly if people move during that attack it's more of a scratch. If people stand still and their gear is awful, based on job, yes it can instantly kill you. It's all about mechanics I would think by know people would move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    It depends on people and their gear, honestly if people move during that attack it's more of a scratch. If people stand still and their gear is awful, based on job, yes it can instantly kill you. It's all about mechanics I would think by know people would move.
    I've seem it drop people from 20000+ to zero with no debuffs. And for other's just a scratch and a debuff.

    Definitely a bug right now.
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    Its a bug and it happens at extremely random times and no one knows why it randomly slaughters people. Its wildly inconsistent and can one shot high ilevel tanks, its a weird one.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Its a bug and it happens at extremely random times and no one knows why it randomly slaughters people. Its wildly inconsistent and can one shot high ilevel tanks, its a weird one.
    Doubt is a bug, you do get de buffs if your hit by other attacks so makes sense. I think is more of SE finally listening about people not wanting to learn mechanics. If you think about same applies to other fights in the Omega raid were moves instantly kill you. Are all those bugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Doubt is a bug, you do get de buffs if your hit by other attacks so makes sense. I think is more of SE finally listening about people not wanting to learn mechanics. If you think about same applies to other Fights were moves instantly kill you are all those bugs?
    Its definitely a bug as its far too inconsistent. When the same person gets frozen multiple times in the exact same way during different runs and randomly takes catastrophic damage in 1 out of 5 runs with nothing being different thats easily a bug.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Its definitely a bug as its far too inconsistent. When the same person gets frozen multiple times in the exact same way during different runs and randomly takes catastrophic damage in 1 out of 5 runs with nothing being different thats easily a bug.
    hmmm I've yet to experience as in inconsistent way. For the most part seems to be do to de buffs and gear. Cousin plays it as healer and we tested a few times since it came out. Doesn't die unless he has a de buff. If anything people just don't think or follow mechanics. Same as enhanced Fire attack people don't realize not to move for 3 seconds and complain is a bug. Same for Shin fight "it one shot us it's a bug"....no people just don't learn mechanics. Amazing how fast people change when they know what to do. Then again maybe it's a server based issue which can be a possibility but only seen high damage when de buff is up other wise Haven't really been hit by that much damage even when frozen.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 08-23-2017 at 03:59 AM. Reason: addition

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    hmmm I've yet to experience as in inconsistent way. For the most part seems to be do to de buffs and gear. Cousin plays it as healer and we tested a few times since it came out. Doesn't die unless he has a de buff. If anything people just don't think or follow mechanics. Same as enhanced Fire attack people don't realize not to move for 3 seconds and complain is a bug. Same for Shin fight "it one shot us it's a bug"....no people just don't learn mechanics. Amazing how fast people change when they know what to do. Then again maybe it's a server based issue which can be a possibility but only seen high damage when de buff is up other wise Haven't really been hit by that much damage even when frozen.
    I'm ilvl 334 with vit melds. I've been randomly one shot from full health with no vuln debuffs on normal mode before.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    It depends on people and their gear, honestly if people move during that attack it's more of a scratch. If people stand still and their gear is awful, based on job, yes it can instantly kill you. It's all about mechanics I would think by know people would move.
    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Doubt is a bug, you do get de buffs if your hit by other attacks so makes sense. I think is more of SE finally listening about people not wanting to learn mechanics. If you think about same applies to other fights in the Omega raid were moves instantly kill you. Are all those bugs?
    It is most definitely a bug. I can attest that it has nothing to do with gear.

    The last time I experienced it was on my BRD, who was ilvl 325 at the time with ~35k HP in the duty. The initial hit (where you're frozen) did 0 damage to me. The Deep Freeze DoT that ticks afterward did nearly 40k damage. I had no stacks of vulnerability, and I was way over the minimum ilvl needed for the content. Queued back into the instance immediately after clearing the bugged fight, and everything was back to normal. I purposely failed the Void Blizzard III mechanic just to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon View Post
    Is it confirmed that it's actually dealing damage? I tried looking it up in the combat log and couldn't find anything, but I'm not sure if that's because of my combat log settings.
    As far as I'm aware, DoT damage doesn't show up in the Battle Logs. When I failed the mechanic to see exactly what was killing the people in the party I was in the first time I experienced the bug, there was no report of the Deep Freeze DoT tick anywhere in my Battle Logs, and it's on the default settings.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 08-23-2017 at 07:31 AM.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Doubt is a bug, you do get de buffs if your hit by other attacks so makes sense. I think is more of SE finally listening about people not wanting to learn mechanics. If you think about same applies to other fights in the Omega raid were moves instantly kill you. Are all those bugs?
    Friends and I tested in. Fully topped up yet we were all one-shot. All our gear was fully melded crafted stuff or Savage. This didn't happen at release nor does it make sense. If it always one-shot'd you, why bother with the freeze effect? You'll just die either way.
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