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  1. #51
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    Catsby Cattington
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    Increasing damage scaling on healers and tanks would be great. Jobs in 4.X are feeling a little too pared down.
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  2. #52
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    What is the dev team position on that ?
    They don't really like it. They don't mind players doing it, but they firmly believe it shouldn't be mandatory to clear any content, even savage.

    They have never said this. They say the fights are (edit) not (end edit) tuned with healer dps in mind. They have NEVER said they don't like healer DPS.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-02-2017 at 09:49 AM.

  3. #53
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    Levin Muscadet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They have never said this. They say the fights are tuned with healer dps in mind. They have NEVER said they don't like healer DPS.
    They have in fact stated that they have tuned things without healer dps in mind, repeatedly. The only situation they have cited where healer dps is possibly necessary is when parties try to push an instance beyond the minimum requirements of the given fight (I.e. First world clears of savage before the minimum Ilvl requirement of the party has been met). Don't go spreading misinformation when you don't know what you're talking about. Also, Yoshi P has gone on interviews to say that he doesn't like the "healer dps is mandatory" mentality. So there you have it.
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    Last edited by Destatiredux; 08-31-2017 at 04:16 AM.

  4. #54
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    Famine Cruor
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    Mateus
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    Hell yes to healer DPS. Every little bit helps, and now you can't complain when I give into the voices and get my Fell Cleavus on.
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  5. 09-02-2017 09:49 AM

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    Nana Hya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They have never said this. They say the fights are (edit) not (end edit) tuned with healer dps in mind. They have NEVER said they don't like healer DPS.
    Had some trouble finding the interview again, but here it is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...NwqZTwPUw/edit
    It's question 3 : and it is interesting because Mr Happy is actually asking if the modification on INT and MND is an incentive for healers to DPS.
    What they don't like is not the fact that people are doing it - they don't mind about it at all, they do understand it's necessary to win first-clear races - it's the fact that some people (toxic people) are making it mandatory and an instant kick. So many times do you see people talking like they're playing in top tier guilds and asking a lot from others.... when most of the time they don't even have a clue of how to correctly play their part, and are just emulating the top tier to look cool...
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  7. #56
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    I don't really care about healer dps.
    I do care about how engaged the healer is. If healing isn't necessary for 1+ GCDs, they should cast something, and often that something should be dps.

    I won't make an issue of it, but won't comm them either.
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  8. #57
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moogly View Post
    Had some trouble finding the interview again, but here it is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...NwqZTwPUw/edit
    It's question 3 : and it is interesting because Mr Happy is actually asking if the modification on INT and MND is an incentive for healers to DPS.
    What they don't like is not the fact that people are doing it - they don't mind about it at all, they do understand it's necessary to win first-clear races - it's the fact that some people (toxic people) are making it mandatory and an instant kick. So many times do you see people talking like they're playing in top tier guilds and asking a lot from others.... when most of the time they don't even have a clue of how to correctly play their part, and are just emulating the top tier to look cool...
    What I took from that interview is that healer dps isn't mandatory, but if people want to do it, that's fine too. Different play styles and all. Hell, even not a few questions later, Yoshi says healer dps might be needed for lower ilvl (read: world first) groups, so he's contradicting himself. Problem is, No matter what Yoshi says, the players build their own perceptions. If the players see there's a ton of low damage going out or downtime, they want healers to be doing something. And perception, as they say, is reality.
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    Finder Bades
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    omai does the rage induced fever of 1000 dead babies.
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