Healer DPS or no?

[Moogly]

They have never said this. They say the fights are (edit) not (end edit) tuned with healer dps in mind. They have NEVER said they don't like healer DPS.

Had some trouble finding the interview again, but here it is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...NwqZTwPUw/edit
It's question 3 : and it is interesting because Mr Happy is actually asking if the modification on INT and MND is an incentive for healers to DPS.
What they don't like is not the fact that people are doing it - they don't mind about it at all, they do understand it's necessary to win first-clear races - it's the fact that some people (toxic people) are making it mandatory and an instant kick. So many times do you see people talking like they're playing in top tier guilds and asking a lot from others.... when most of the time they don't even have a clue of how to correctly play their part, and are just emulating the top tier to look cool...

[Deceptus]

Had some trouble finding the interview again, but here it is : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...NwqZTwPUw/edit
It's question 3 : and it is interesting because Mr Happy is actually asking if the modification on INT and MND is an incentive for healers to DPS.
What they don't like is not the fact that people are doing it - they don't mind about it at all, they do understand it's necessary to win first-clear races - it's the fact that some people (toxic people) are making it mandatory and an instant kick. So many times do you see people talking like they're playing in top tier guilds and asking a lot from others.... when most of the time they don't even have a clue of how to correctly play their part, and are just emulating the top tier to look cool...

What I took from that interview is that healer dps isn't mandatory, but if people want to do it, that's fine too. Different play styles and all. Hell, even not a few questions later, Yoshi says healer dps might be needed for lower ilvl (read: world first) groups, so he's contradicting himself. Problem is, No matter what Yoshi says, the players build their own perceptions. If the players see there's a ton of low damage going out or downtime, they want healers to be doing something. And perception, as they say, is reality.

[Xenosan]

If tanks need only bring as much mitigation as they need,

healers need only bring as much healing as they need.

The rest is just about how comfortable healer feels vs PUG tank, vs tank feels for PUG healer. I've got my own DPS inclinations healing, just as I have my pull distance & stance usage inclination when tanking. If I PUG with a healer that's not in-step with what I think is best as tank - I adapt to that (pull more, or less | drop tank stance more, or less). And vice versa: if tank is pulling in a manner I think is suboptimal, I'm more aggressive. If he's over-doing the pull (which in some lvling dungeons, and with some party comps is absolutely is a thing), than I got to sacrifice my DPS as healer.

[kagemitsu]

I care about doing things efficiently. If the healer has time to jump around and spam emotes, then they also have time to contribute to the DPS and make the run faster for everyone, as every little bit helps.

I'm not gonna yell at someone because, at the end of the day, who cares, but I'm pretty annoyed when there's little healing to do and the healer is just having fun being an idiot.

[ForgottenScholar]

A healer or any player doing emotes/dances during fights is just trolling, I just dont know why this has blown up into criticising and entire player base of healers, who will mostly play their job as well as they can. I have never in my entirely in a fight seen this type of behaviour so is this a USA thing as in Europe i dont see it.
A healer role is fluid so assigning set actions such as a dps ratio in a fight is just wrong and any experienced healer will DPS when THEY CHOOSE!!, as they know their job. If you are still bothered by this as a community i suggest you ask the dev team to make healing more like Assize, Earthly star and energy drain then everyone wins.

[Rezef]

I don't really mind if they dps or not. Their job is to heal not to dps. If they feel like DPSing though it's even better cause that extra DPS helps in clearing faster. I've played all roles and when I play healer I feel weird when I don't DPS but when I don't know how the fight goes I prefer berserk healing instead of DPS in order e to feel safe and not have the fear of wiping due to my inconsistency.

[Catsby]

Increasing damage scaling on healers and tanks would be great. Jobs in 4.X are feeling a little too pared down.

[winsock]

I don't really care about healer dps.
I do care about how engaged the healer is. If healing isn't necessary for 1+ GCDs, they should cast something, and often that something should be dps.

I won't make an issue of it, but won't comm them either.

[finders]

omai does the rage induced fever of 1000 dead babies.