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    If it involves using a bot, it most definitely violates ToS...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    If it involves using a bot, it most definitely violates ToS...
    It involves bot but it don't involve using the bot or being related to them in anyway that violate the tos. I had given away alot trade secret here which I used to secure a few houses for my FC members.

    The last tip: What do you do when you met a bot in the game?
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    Wow, that's seriously fucked up. Reporting someone as a bot when they probably aren't? No wonder you're scared to say it.
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    Last edited by Elamys; 08-26-2017 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    The last tip: What do you do when you met a bot in the game?
    Are you saying to report a bot and hope that the bot's house gets taken away or purchase the house from someone that never really earned it? That might work on the JP servers where I've heard they actually deal with reported bots in a timely manner, but on the EN servers you can report someone for it and if anything is even done at all, it's not noticeable because they get to keep playing and keep all their ill-gotten gains. Please note I'm not promoting the act, it's against TOS and I would love for Square to weed them out, but from experience reporting obvious botters (running in perfect circles until aggro, kill critter then back to circles in the exact same spot until a respawn/aggro) it's not being handled. They might track down the major groups to take out in waves, but individuals seem to skate by. I have a sneaking suspicion that the 4 people (FOUR for this many users?!) don't speak/read English well or at all. We need localized teams handling the reports/dealing with abusers while forwarding pattern reports and such to the main team based at hq.
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    Last edited by Dustytome; 08-26-2017 at 12:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Are you saying to report a bot and hope that the bot's house gets taken away or purchase the house from someone that never really earned it? That might work on the JP servers where I've heard they actually deal with reported bots in a timely manner.
    I guess that's why. There's actually a bunch of bot getting banned in JP server, and I tracked down their name after they went missing in FATE and gathering zone (I actually made a sheet of every house owner including single player fc, and compare it with the botters).

    45 days later I got myself a mansion.

    Though tbh It's still doable in EN server for last 2 month (after SB expansion), and I had heard of many botters got banned in FATE and Frontline (including EN server). You can definitely see that the number of permanent banned account went up drastically after SB is released too.

    Quote Originally Posted by lamys View Post
    Reporting someone as a bot when they probably aren't?
    That's against the ToS. Try again. Wow, I can't even understand why do you need to go that low. Beside, this method won't even work and can get you into trouble.
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    Last edited by Mirarara; 08-26-2017 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    That's against the ToS. Try again. Wow, I can't even understand why do you need to go that low. Beside, this method won't even work and can get you into trouble.
    I think it's because you didn't just specify and then mentioned that it's somewhat devilish to do so it makes the mind wander as to what you meant. I think most of us have no qualms over reporting someone letting a program play the game for them and stripping them of assets they likely didn't procure on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    I think it's because you didn't just specify and then mentioned that it's somewhat devilish to do so it makes the mind wander as to what you meant. I think most of us have no qualms over reporting someone letting a program play the game for them and stripping them of assets they likely didn't procure on their own.
    That's considered devilish in JP server because most of us don't really mind people botting.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    I think it's because you didn't just specify and then mentioned that it's somewhat devilish to do so it makes the mind wander as to what you meant. I think most of us have no qualms over reporting someone letting a program play the game for them and stripping them of assets they likely didn't procure on their own.
    Yes, this would be why, combined with the reluctance to explain what exactly she meant.

    They don't do anything about botters on NA servers. There are people botting on my server that have been since I started playing, and they've been reported numerous times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Yes, this would be why, combined with the reluctance to explain what exactly she meant.

    They don't do anything about botters on NA servers. There are people botting on my server that have been since I started playing, and they've been reported numerous times.
    They do things about it. I have seen several people try to sell off the demolish timing of the estate of their banned account in NA.

    My stand is still the same. It's not hard to get an estate if you are willing to give effort. But most refuse to put in extra effort even though housing is competitive. In a competitive market, only those who placed in the most effort/thought win.

    There's actually at least another 2 method to get an estate without violating ToS/law that I know of. Pretty sure there are more but those are suffice to me.
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    Last edited by Mirarara; 08-26-2017 at 01:54 PM.

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    Your supposed system only works because of resellers but if instead of resellers all house owners were like me GL HF finding a new house in at least one more year. In normal circumstances, you can do nothing but stalk houses and owner loadstone to guess if that person is no longer playing and keep an eye to his plot.
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