Lost Allagan Codex

[Cynfael]

I really wanna know what I should be focusing on because right now I use Crit and SS materia as a Scholar but I have no clue what's actually best to be using. A few threads have said that Direct Hit is really useful for your DPS but Critical Hit and Spell Speed have obvious universal appeal for both healing and damage output.

I would argue that even though SpS supports DPS, it's a garbage healing stat for SCH. No one needs an oh-so-slightly faster heal with how damage is both choreographed and telegraphed, and SCH's only HoT is Eos' Whispering Dawn. I'd compare SpS and DH based almost purely on DPS value.

[Dregenfox]

I would argue that even though SpS supports DPS, it's a garbage healing stat for SCH. No one needs an oh-so-slightly faster heal with how damage is both choreographed and telegraphed, and SCH's only HoT is Eos' Whispering Dawn. I'd compare SpS and DH based almost purely on DPS value.

You obviously shouldn't prioritize it, but Eos does get a lot faster with SpS, and embrace makes up a significant portion of SCH healing + costs no resources regardless of how fast embrace gets. It's nice for DOT's as well.

Unlike for DPS there really isn't a strict priority in terms of which stat is better. Even if crit is mathematically better, SpS helps a lot in savage fights like o4s where the window of healing is tight, and other healers might see a lot of value in the consistency of determination. Still others might be taking on the brunt of main + AOE healing for their raid and end up needing the sustain from piety.

[technole]

Ideally SCH would benefit the most from SpS damage over the other healers just because of the amount of dots we have, compared to AST which has just one.

I'm using the i340 Augmented Lost Allagan Codex until I get the Genji Codex (PIE/Crit) to drop, or when my raid lets me roll on the weapon box. My white mage and I were the most screwed in the group with nimble savage gear drops, so they let me have a weapon dip upgrade. Since more weapon damage>substats, and honestly it's not like SCH is struggling to get better substats because there is pretty good gear savage and tome-wise to get Crit. Don't forget a higher ilevel weapon gives more VIT too, that's pretty valuable in savage.

Don't really need to fish for crits though, sure it's nice to get a crit deploy for O4S Almagest, or flares. It adds up to more DPS since both can heal less but it's not a game breaker.

[Ftail]

I would argue that even though SpS supports DPS, it's a garbage healing stat for SCH.

It's hardly a garbage healing stat for SCH. Sure Crit is better for healing, but to call SS garbage is a gross understatement.

Anyway, since I usually play with a WHM who can almost solo heal all the savage content, I'm usually spending about 80%-90% of my time DPS'ing and managing 3 dots on the boss as the off-healer. Usually when we wipe in savage fights it's to the enrage timer, the more DPS I can pump out for the group, the better I say. Until content that is created that actually makes me struggle with healing groups and I'm not spending the majority of my time dealing damage, I'll consider changing my build.

[Cynfael]

It's hardly a garbage healing stat for SCH. Sure Crit is better for healing, but to call SS garbage is a gross understatement.

What case would you make for SS as a good healing stat for SCH?

You obviously shouldn't prioritize it, but Eos does get a lot faster with SpS.

Unless the interface is lying (not saying this isn't possible, mind you), SS is not affecting faerie cast times or delays.

[Sebazy]

Gonna agree with Cyn on SS not benefitting healing much.

It boosts dot ticks and of course, when you're broiling, you're usually broiling as fast as that button will allow you. The same can't be said about SCH's GCD heals.

I've got it in my head that SS doesn't effect Whispering Dawn's tick size either? Take that with a pinch of salt tho as I've been avoiding the job since SB =(

[Cynfael]

I've got it in my head that SS doesn't effect Whispering Dawn's tick size either? Take that with a pinch of salt tho as I've been avoiding the job since SB =(

I think you're right, but I never tested it or referred to reliable source, so I didn't want to say. Even if it did, the effect would probably be negligible.

[RyuDragnier]

You're better off leaving SS at 1K and put the rest into Crit and Det.

[Dregenfox]

What case would you make for SS as a good healing stat for SCH?



Unless the interface is lying (not saying this isn't possible, mind you), SS is not affecting faerie cast times or delays.

The interface doesn't show the actual cooldown times, but use it on something long that's classified as a spell like Whispering Dawn, and it'll show the actual cooldown time (usually in the 56-58 range for most SCH). It only works on Embrace and WD, but they're the two most consistenly useful skills as well.

It's harder to notice on Embrace because you need enough for it to actually go down a full second for it to show 2 seconds.

[jstamos]

The bottom line: we have a special interaction with crit (Aldo) and don't with SS. A lot of our powerful spells are instant cast and oGCD. Lustrate benefits in ZERO ways from SS, but can crit.

Take crit.