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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brannigan View Post
    I doubt it will even live up to 2.1's Primal Focus quest. SE's devs apparently can't figure out how to make cool side content - to be fair, a lot of that has to do with how bland/restrictive their gear system is. With only 10 ilvls between welfare tomestone gear and raid stuff, there's not a whole lot of room to add mid-level gear. If you can't put decent rewards in something, it takes the wind out of its sails before it even gets going and makes its flaws stand out even more.
    to be fair, actually that has to do with the people that play the game. Every time we get something cool, it has to be nerfed million of times, hours/days and weeks right after. Every time we get something "medium" ranged, and cupcake forbid it has a title/mount/gear/glamour/or just fun, there will be thousands of complaint threads that indicate these items being "gated/locked" behind content these players can't access, and it's unfair. Guess what, well right we gonna nerf it again and open it up to the public, just to find out that right after, we still need to complain about the difficulty.

    I can see that some people might be happy about the release of Eureaka but I wouldn't get my hopes up. It will probably be something like "forced" content, watch and see, have to do it hundreds of times if you want a relic for glamour, at least that's one or maybe even the only method/guarantee, for the content not to be dead right at the start lol.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I hope so because almost everything SE brings out that's suppose to be "New and refreshing" is a bust lol.
    Well, no "lol"...I actually want SE to really succeed in bringing something new to the table.
    PoTD is just a catch up for DPS to level on, and a boring tiny area at that...
    Diadem had potential but man...what happened there.
    Diadem failed cos it was basically a fate grind. I did the rehashed one twice and itnwas just fates fates and more fates. Never set foot in it again. If eureka even has hints of fates or fate like content think a lot of people are going to be angry. Esoecially when it's suppose dto be all new content.

    Also the game doesn't need lockout. I mean sure if they were removed a few people would grind the hell out of times fear everything in a week nad be done. But most wouldnt.

    Content without lockouts is already in the game. Ex primal for example. It's possible to have every weapon and the mount within 24 hours of the patch going live because theres no lockouts on it. Yet even after almost 2 months theres still dozens of farm parties in the pf every single day. It's the one piece of content people can take there time with and catch up whenever they like.

    If the no lockout beliefs were true then those primal would have been dead content a long time ago.

    Tomes and raids even the 24 man ones. If You don't cap or miss a weekly drop you're always going to be behind so you're more forced into doing them. Primal though doesn't matter.
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  3. #13
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    Been playing since 1.0 EU launch and I have to disagree. The amount of side content and stuff to do in general is a lot. Over the last 3 years, SE has brought a lot to the game and with more to come.

    There is still a lot to do, you just have to be honest to yourself AND SE about what it really is you want. Also think about how many hours a week you spend consuming the content.

    It doesn't matter what SE brings out if you gorge it within 2 days.

    Keep up the good work SE. Your game is amazing!
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    Content without lockouts is already in the game. Ex primal for example. It's possible to have every weapon and the mount within 24 hours of the patch going live because theres no lockouts on it. Yet even after almost 2 months theres still dozens of farm parties in the pf every single day. It's the one piece of content people can take there time with and catch up whenever they like.
    Just give tomes the same dropchance as primal mounts instead of the 100% reward chance and the devs can remove the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunaFaye View Post
    to be fair, actually that has to do with the people that play the game. Every time we get something cool, it has to be nerfed million of times, hours/days and weeks right after. Every time we get something "medium" ranged, and cupcake forbid it has a title/mount/gear/glamour/or just fun, there will be thousands of complaint threads that indicate these items being "gated/locked" behind content these players can't access, and it's unfair. Guess what, well right we gonna nerf it again and open it up to the public, just to find out that right after, we still need to complain about the difficulty.

    I can see that some people might be happy about the release of Eureaka but I wouldn't get my hopes up. It will probably be something like "forced" content, watch and see, have to do it hundreds of times if you want a relic for glamour, at least that's one or maybe even the only method/guarantee, for the content not to be dead right at the start lol.
    This is actually somewhat inaccurate. The devs have a propensity to jump the gun. Neither Weeping City nor Final Steps of Faith were nerfed despite fan backlash, which goes to show if the devs stop setting a precedence, people will "git gud" if the content isn't too unreasonable. Gordias crossed the proverbial line. Unfortunately, they now seem terrified to even attempt difficult content at a higher level. Yes, you can fault people who feel entitled to clear everything despite not having the skill to accomplish it, but the devs need to recognize when content is legitimately poorly tuned (Gordias) or bad players whining (Zurvan). What leaves me on the fence with Stormblood is it appears they want to dumb everything down further as crafting has become a near joke and even Savage doesn't offer a challenge until its third fight.
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    What I want :

    - Light fates and Medium fates.(fates give treasure maps sometimes)
    - 3 Big fates (as Odin, Behemot...) which can spawn with conditions (one with treasure maps cleared, one with dungeons cleared, one with fates cleared)
    - Treasure maps. You can find the location only with Chocobo (new feature, like in FFIX). It's happen rarely, it's a big encounter. In that case, you can invite 2 others party to form an alliance. Exclusive loots from here (you get one dungeon key on each treasure map)
    - 2 mini-dungeons instance (10 min) which open with keys treasure maps (you have low % chance to get the right key in a map) . One boss mid progress, and one final boss. The dungeons are semi-random (a mix between normal and PotD). Exclusive loots from here. It's tied to the party. It's more difficult than usual dungeon.
    - 1 big fight instance (as Diadem 2.0) which pop always at least one time for each timer. Exclusive loots from here. It's for all party on the field.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skogli View Post
    There is still a lot to do, you just have to be honest to yourself AND SE about what it really is you want. Also think about how many hours a week you spend consuming the content.

    It doesn't matter what SE brings out if you gorge it within 2 days.

    Keep up the good work SE. Your game is amazing!
    Is there really? I certainly play an absurd amount, thus I never expect the devs to match my playtime with an equal amount of content. They couldn't. That being said, taken at a glance, how much do we actually have?

    - Two laughably easy EX Primals which may as well be normal modes
    - An equally easy raid tier
    - The Savage equivalent where arguably the first two bosses roll over
    - High level crafting reduced to easy to make macro-ing
    - A somewhat hollow progression system
    - New crafting/gathering scrips that are literally worthless

    Now that is overly pessimistic. I, for one, am indifferent with tombstones and the weekly cap. I've also enjoyed a number of the fights, dungeons and etc. But that doesn't change how much Stormblood feels like a re-skinned Heavensward. We don't need sweeping changes to current systems, however something to reinvigorate things would be much appreciated.

    Honestly, my biggest gripe with Stormblood is how easy everything has become. I don't want everything to be painfully difficult, but I would like to feel challenged. I love Susano, for instance. Too bad he's such a joke with gear only a month old.
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  8. #18
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    I hope no fates are involved at ALL there. We have far then enough content that revolves around fates (seasonal events, relics, etc..)
    Palace i know may not be for all but was fun, and Aquapolis and Canals are really enjoyable so they need to bring something at that level of fun, just hope something entirely different then what we have ever had.

    I also will agree that Diadem could have been so great but they missed out on that one, even the "re-work" of it was a fail i think? Have not been there since before that
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  9. #19
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    Altena Trife
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skogli View Post
    Been playing since 1.0 EU launch and I have to disagree. The amount of side content and stuff to do in general is a lot. Over the last 3 years, SE has brought a lot to the game and with more to come.

    There is still a lot to do, you just have to be honest to yourself AND SE about what it really is you want. Also think about how many hours a week you spend consuming the content.

    It doesn't matter what SE brings out if you gorge it within 2 days.

    Keep up the good work SE. Your game is amazing!
    Yeah sorry bro there really isn't much to do. I understand that you may think that if you don't have a whole lot of weekly playtime however there comes a point where the content gets dried up.
    The fact that the main system for progression is gated behind a weekly cap simply means that all I am logging in for, is to top up my new 450 tomes and do a couple of raids (see also: trials).

    I admit my playtime is probably a touch higher than the majority (or at least was last raid cycle), however there really isn't a whole lot of content to do.

    I could do Susano/Lakshmi for the mount, but that means grinding the same extremely scripted fight over and over. The weapons are useless to me as I can craft any i320 weapon or accessory that I need.
    The raids are on a weekly lockout. So I can only do them once a week.
    I could level other jobs that I don't care too much about (what I am doing to fill in time now).
    I could do treasure maps for........... wait what are maps for again? gil?
    I could earn gil that I don't need to spend because I have everything I need/care for including a mansion.
    Hunts? What do I need hunts for? Clusters? I can just buy Materia with all the gil I don't need.

    There really isn't a whole lot of content that is rewarding enough for me to do, and the content just isn't fun enough anymore for what little rewards (if any) it gives, as it's just the same rewashed formula.

    Don't get me wrong, I enjoy doing what I am doing for the most part, however my point is that I am getting to the end of my XIV life in the nearish future I think, unless some new content that stirs the pot gets released.
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    Last edited by Altena; 08-21-2017 at 10:08 PM.

  10. #20
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Eureka is content created for the sole purpose of progressing your stormblood relic. While there might be other minor rewards such as tomestones, I'll doubt you'll be able to obtain anything here that is not involved in progressing your relic.
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