Is this a statistical anomaly? Or something else?

[AdamZ]

Wut. People don't solo queue into the same GC. We don't care what gc we end up in. When we premades well just carry whoever team we get in. Why would we risk being in separate parties and matches for the sake of being in one GC? Especially when we've been clamouring for freelancer for so long.

It is likely a primal thing. But they are doing it to ensure one of the other parties is not a bot party. Most of the good players where Mael on primal, shortly before freelancer came out. Given how GC did not matter, most then are still Mael now. So we are back to a pre freelancer state where the better players que to Mael. The bots que flames/adders, and it just further feeds the issue we had before.

If they where doing what you say on primal, you would get these pre-mades in the other GC's (like you did after the start of freelancer), but you do not get that anymore.

Again, Primal thing, we likely have more bots, cause primal...

[Bigceto]

Yeah keep promoting it to the point freeloaders starts to flood mael and it wont take long until they are sitting in 10% victory rate after a week...

Im balancing pvp for SE since their not very good at it.

[Synestra]

Im balancing pvp for SE since their not very good at it.

Swapping freeloaders from one GC to another is not really a solution in my book, its just temp fix and one GC starts to dominate after a while. But in the end it does't really matter as i can change GC if i feel the need for that, never really cared fighting under certain banner only thing that mattered was the teammates.

[Alisi]

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There will be no balancing among the GCs as long as the bot problem is still in place. Frankly, I don't know why everyone doesn't switch to MS in protest. My last match was 30 minutes or so ago. One enemy team was entirely bots and the other had a majority of bots. I only saw one or two on that second team that acted like they weren't bots. And I felt badly for those two people who were obviously stuck on a shitty team. They tried to work around it (stealing bases, getting the smaller ices) but there really wasn't much they could do.

And we all know PVP isn't SE's priority in this game. It's more of an afterthought. Perhaps a big demonstration of protest is what will be needed to deal with this situation.

[Brownondorf]

The more i play frontlines the more maelstrom are driving me insane omg. Just had the quickest game ever, one of those game where all the small ice pops then its a deathmatch. Well mael just came to our base and totally Roflstomped us, game was less than 7 minutes... and flames actually pretty much did nothing at all. They patiently waited for the game to end lol.

[NorthernLadMSP]

At least on Aether, half of the Flames are bots (no proof, just the feeling I get after watching them in action).

Adders and Mael at least seem to be mostly comprised of actual people.

Best example - I see this almost every fight. One random Flames just charges into our big group on mount. Like makes a bee line right into us as if they're autoprogrammed to head to our base. When attacked, they just keep moving on their mount like nothing is happening.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Another thing i see all the time on Flames - someone calls out big ice. The real players rush to the ice, the bots literally stand there doing nothing in a group and keep doing nothing until the ice is destroyed.

[Geryth]

I think it definitely more than just a bad streak of luck. Last night was a lot better, but the prevailing theme of getting placed on flames is still very much a thing. Here are my games last night:

Game 1: Placed IF - Winner MS
Game 2: Placed IF - Winner IF
Game 3: Placed MS - MS
Game 4: Placed TA - TA
Game 5: Placed IF - TA
Game 6: Placed IF - TA
Game 7: Placed IF - TA
Game 8: Placed IF - IF
Game 9: Placed MS - TA/IF
Game 10: Placed TA - TA
Game 11: Placed IF - TA
Game 12: Placed IF - MS
Game 13: Placed IF - MS
Game 14: Placed TA - MS (turned freelancer off for this game)
Game 15: Placed IF - MS
Game 16: Placed TA - TA (turned freelancer off for this game)
Game 17: Placed TA - TA (turned freelancer off for this game)

My win % when I freelanced on Flames was 20%. My win % when I freelanced on Adders or Mael was 75% (not counting my non-freelanced adders games).

And when I freelance, my chances of freelancing to flames, over my last 50 games, has been around 75% (it was 71% last night and that was the most diverse night I've had in a while)

So right now on the Aether datacenter, freelancing means a pretty low chance to win. I think I'll put my fate into the Adders for a while and see how that goes.

[Geryth]

I'll put my fate into the Adders for a while and see how that goes.

In case anyone has been wondering how it's been going with queuing only for adders:



It's been a great week. Last week I was somewhere around 38-40% win, and it's 50% this week. I might get that red ADS mount sometime this century. Having a 22% win rate over 60-70 games was torture.

[Vandril]

What you're saying makes a lot of sense, but I'd still guess it was a coincidence. Still, who really knows, maybe there actually is something to this. Just seems to me like things would have balanced themselves out by now given how long the Freelancer system has been in place.

As far as your experience goes, Geryth, if you think it'll help then there's really no reason to not transfer GCs (unless you're particularly loyal to yours). At worst, nothing happens. At best, improvement.