POSSIBLE PRIMAL

[ArcanoJones]

ok ..I guess they have used Phoenix.

[Starkbeaumont]

If we don't get the 4 fiends during omega I can see SE adding them as primals. Barbariccia is kinda like Garuda anyway, you could easily leave her out.
The 4 fiends of FFI/IX would also work.

[Jonnycbad]

Fenrir in Snowcloak only has "Lunar Cry", but that makes sense for any wolf monster to have. The real Fenrir would have Moonlit Charge, Lunar Bay, Lunar Roar, Crescent Fang, Eclipse Bite, etc...

[Arutan]

Fenrir in Snowcloak only has "Lunar Cry", but that makes sense for any wolf monster to have. The real Fenrir would have Moonlit Charge, Lunar Bay, Lunar Roar, Crescent Fang, Eclipse Bite, etc...

It has been stated in game with the mount, minion and triple triad card that it isn't fenrir anyway.

[Lambdafish]

It has been stated in game with the mount, minion and triple triad card that it isn't fenrir anyway.

Fenrir would be perfect as the primal associated with the Lupin. I am so torn as to whether I want the Lupin to be a spoken race or a beast tribe as they have claims to be either.

[Enkidoh]

Fenrir would be perfect as the primal associated with the Lupin. I am so torn as to whether I want the Lupin to be a spoken race or a beast tribe as they have claims to be either.

Except the real Fenrir is just a wolf. A legendary alpha wolf to be sure, but still just a wolf. And the boss fight in Snowcloak against him he more or less took on his summon skills from FFXI anyway so that is pretty conclusive Fenrir will never be a Primal.

Same goes for Diabolos who is a voidsent demon and not a Primal (again he uses the same skills from his summon form in FFVIII and XI).

[Daralii]

Except the real Fenrir is just a wolf. A legendary alpha wolf to be sure, but still just a wolf. And the boss fight in Snowcloak against him he more or less took on his summon skills from FFXI anyway so that is pretty conclusive Fenrir will never be a Primal.

Same goes for Diabolos who is a voidsent demon and not a Primal (again he uses the same skills from his summon form in FFVIII and XI).

You mean like how the real Shiva was just an elezen that got eaten by Hraesvalgr? Or how the real King Moggle Mog was just a normal moogle? It's the summoners' perception that matters, not the reality.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Lets also look at beastmen in game that haven't summoned a primal yet
Mamool-Ja
Qiqirn
Those catfish ppl I don't remember the name of
Unsure if Tonberries would be classified as beastmen
The mammoth people in steppes
Goblins had alexander but they didn't summon it
Lupin we're currently unsure if are actually considered beastmen.

[Lambdafish]

Unsure if Tonberries would be classified as beastmen

The tonberries are cursed lalafell, and while the game has taught us that this in no way stops them summoning a primal, I personally feel that the they are too closely tied to the SCH questline to be explored in any other major capacity

[Arutan]

Lets also look at beastmen in game that haven't summoned a primal yet
Mamool-Ja
Qiqirn
Those catfish ppl I don't remember the name of
Unsure if Tonberries would be classified as beastmen
The mammoth people in steppes
Goblins had alexander but they didn't summon it
Lupin we're currently unsure if are actually considered beastmen.

Goblins did summon Alexander. And Tonberry aren't bestmean, they're cursed men. They have no deity, just hatred until you lvl up an SCH.

You mean like how the real Shiva was just an elezen that got eaten by Hraesvalgr? Or how the real King Moggle Mog was just a normal moogle? It's the summoners' perception that matters, not the reality.

Yup, it's all about cognition. And keep in mind that those summoned aren't REAL anyway. It can be anything you have in mind and you just put a name on it. So far beast tribes just put the name of their deity on what they summon, just like Shinryu; it has no beast tribe, no name, so we chose something for him that would correspond. But basically none of them has a name as long as it has never been summoned.