POSSIBLE PRIMAL

[Rymm]

Primals are tied to beast tribes, not the types of zones they spawn in. Of the candidates we have for possible beast tribe factions in this xpac, only the Vira live in an arid map and we have already seen their primal. If we do get a new one it will likely be tied to the Namazu (fish) or Lupin (wolves,) neither of which would make a sense to have a golem primal. The only possible way we would get one in SB is if SE slaps on an entirely new beast tribe out of the blue who have some tie to rocks.

Even then, as Legion said, golems are a type of mob, not a primal.

[WellFooled]

Even then, as Legion said, golems are a type of mob, not a primal.

Like so many summons in Final Fantasy history, Golem could refer to either, but Golem has been a summon in the past.

[Rymm]

Like so many summons in Final Fantasy history, Golem could refer to either, but Golem has been a summon in the past.

Hm, never play VI, so I hadn't seen that.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that Eorzea is already chock-full of non-primal golems and it would make no sense whatsoever for them to be included as both when all the other primals are unique from all other bosses and mobs in FF14. It also doesn't address the first part of my post that primals in FF14 are based on beast tribes, not types of zones.

[WellFooled]

Hm, never play VI, so I hadn't seen that.

Still, it doesn't change the fact that Eorzea is already chock-full of non-primal golems and it would make no sense whatsoever for them to be included as both when all the other primals are unique from all other bosses and mobs in FF14. It also doesn't address the first part of my post that primals in FF14 are based on beast tribes, not types of zones.

I don't think it's terribly likely we'll get a Golem Primal in FFXIV, because of all the reasons mentioned in the thread already, but if we can have two completely different bosses named Halicarnassus I don't think the name already being used is what will hold it back. The distinction would just be between The Golem and a golem.

[Enkidoh]

If Heavensward is anything to go by, no (HW only had two Primals added with the initial storyline, no more were added in any patch after, and we had technically three Primals with SB already). And as others have mentioned, Golem is an enemy type not a Primal here (just because it was a summon in the past does not mean it will be a Primal, as there have been quite a few past summons... that have shown up in FFXIV as just regular enemies or even just npcs and not Primals - Diabolos, Cait Sith, Ark, Gilgamesh, Chuchilian, Ultima, Yojimbo to name a few).

And Anima will never be a summon as it's a minion you get for completing the anima weapon questline (not to mention a term used to describe the body's tolerance for teleporting), so that's out too I'm afraid.

[Black_Wing]

If Heavensward is anything to go by, no (HW only had two Primals added with the initial storyline, no more were added in any patch after, and we had technically three Primals with SB already). And as others have mentioned, Golem is an enemy type not a Primal here (just because it was a summon in the past does not mean it will be a Primal, as there have been quite a few past summons... that have shown up in FFXIV as just regular enemies or even just npcs and not Primals - Diabolos, Cait Sith, Ark, Gilgamesh, Chuchilian, Ultima, Yojimbo to name a few).

And Anima will never be a summon as it's a minion you get for completing the anima weapon questline (not to mention a term used to describe the body's tolerance for teleporting), so that's out too I'm afraid.

Heavensward had 6 Primals. Bismark, Ravana, KoTR, and then the warring triad with Sephirot, Sophia, and Zurvan.

[Silvykins]

Heavensward had 6 Primals. Bismark, Ravana, KoTR, and then the warring triad with Sephirot, Sophia, and Zurvan.

Technically 7 even knowing we don't fight Alexander as a primal he was revealed as part of the story that he was infact a primal. And even knowing you don't fight him as a primal but as an regular instance he still gave you items to make weapons like many primals.

[Enkidoh]

Heavensward had 6 Primals. Bismark, Ravana, KoTR, and then the warring triad with Sephirot, Sophia, and Zurvan.

Urk, you're right, how in Azeyma's name did I forget those? *hangs head in shame*

Thanks for reminding me of that.

Still, I doubt we'll be seeing more Primals in future SB patches - we do have two new raids coming up though (FFIII's Forbidden Land Eureka and an FFXII/FFT Ivalice-themed one) so anything is possible in those really.

[Anienai]

Doom Train
Yojimbo
Absolute Virtue

[Dark-Saviour]

Yojimbo
Absolute Virtue

Yojimbo is already in the game though (Kugane Castle)

As for Absolute Virtue, I still want either he or Pandemonium Warden to appear as a troll-mode raid boss. Make them play essentially identical to how they initially were in XI, with all of the same gimmicks (certain abilities could be switched over to being 2-hour Cooldowns for the AV fight) and an 18-hour timer instead of 60-90 minutes.
>_>