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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    You can buy pretty amazing endgame gear via gil, though, but they didn't make endgame progression TOO money dependent (otherwise you get a mess like Aion...).And all of the "extras" are what other MMOs have as well.

    What XIV IS missing is a plex system that allows players with an abundance of gil to spend it on the game time that was purchased by players who have more RL money and less time to grind currency in game...
    Yes but the problem is, unless you are doing savage, you do not need it, so the demand is low. With that low demand, the items get undervalued till the point midcore are like why not so i can face roll crap? or whatever price is at that allows people buy then that normally wouldn't due to the undervalue due to lack of demand. Then another problem is supply. The leve system makes it too easy to level crafts, leaving a high supply and a low demand to make it worse. The complaint is not you can't make money, you depend on making money due to others not crafting the item. Because if too many people make said item with the low demand, prices would fall too low for crafting be worthwhile. This does happen in this game, and people stop making said item, and 24/7 crafters take advanage of that and sell it on the high end eventually. So an item that sells 70k today may sell for 10k tomorrow and 5 days later be 110k. Due to little motivation to craft, that leaves little want for few to keep crafting (People like me craft just because... and hording gil is fun to some people) That is another reason for high fluctuations.

    I was not bringing RMT into this, but I would venture a guess even RMT values are low or sale active is low because you simply do not really use gil in this game, or really need to to do so, that is why crafter focus people make a ton of gil, because you do not need to buy much to sustain it or get to that point. I think you missed my point, put things simply. Being able to make gi/money does not mean it has a good encon, as I explained how a seemly good econ on the surface hides a lot of that ice berg underneath. I am riding the encon ship full steam ahead wondering when it will crash completely in that block of ice before people see troubles in a system like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    Yes but the problem is, unless you are doing savage, you do not need it, so the demand is low.
    I actually spoke to a player on these forums not too long ago who prided himself on keeping his gear as strong as possible, even though he didn't raid, so the demand IS there to an extent.

    However, what would truly drive the demand for that gear would be Super Savage giving professional raiding teams a difficult time, making early gear progression that much more important.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vexander View Post
    Yet how many years has WoW been alive without housing?
    Housing is kind of a bad example, considering how badly they've botched the housing situation...

    Also, the option to enable chat bubbles is a staple in most MMOs these days so he's not wrong about that.

    XIV steals from WoW and WoW steals from XIV. I just wish they'd hurry up and steal the glamour log already...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardButte View Post
    Housing is kind of a bad example, considering how badly they've botched the housing situation...
    FFXIV's Housing Situation may not be ideal, but at least it -has- housing, whereas WoW still does not. If you were to ask me if I'd rather have chat bubbles or player housing, I would say player housing each time.
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