Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
WHM * or basically combining whm and SMN. But again you killed your own view, right now SMN IS BLM+ !!!! it is given BLM spells -.-
Iiiii'm gonna butt in right here: in FFIII, Evokers could do either a support effect or attack with their Summons, Summoners could only do the attack versions but were more powerful. In IV, Rydia (THE Summoner for the old-school fans) STARTS with White Magic, Black Magic and Summon, but when you get her back, she's lost White Magic and only has Black Magic and Summons; in V, it doesn't really matter since you could switch their 2nd skill (you were better off with Black Magic, though), VI to VIII didn't have a "Summoner" per se and it was only on IX and X where they were White Mages with Summons; in XI (as far as I know) they were TREATED as WHM with Summons but not intended as such. The REAL problem with Summoner SERIES-WIDE (and I agree, why are we even discussing that here?) is its lack of a consistent identity.

The lore doesn't allow for a Summoner the way the playerbase wants it; back when the game came for PS3, the system didn't allow for it (imagine 30 Ifrits or Bahamuts at the same time during a hunt...my boyfriend kept complaining about how EGIS would load while PCs wouldn't in PvP, now imagine if those were Summons taller than a Roegadyn); and their basic mechanics series-wise wouldn't allow it (One of their consistencies is having a looong cast-time to offset the power of Summons, imagine having ALL your spells with the cast time of Summon), so does SMN need reworks so the fans stop complaining about it every month? yes, now can we let this thread die already?