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    Player Snow_Princess's Avatar
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    Princess Sakura
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I hate when people share their opinions and immediately get shut down.
    Game is not perfect. Like, whenever someone says something even the slightest negative
    about this game, you best be in Shield Oath. All the aggro coming your way!OP even stated he like the games story, and other things on it but the end-game
    is bad...I can't speak for the thousands of players but I am sure a lot think
    end-game isn't all that great. :/ It really isn't...It's missing something.
    Also sucks gear is obsolete within a patch so you don't really feel accomplished
    by your work. It's just a treadmill that dies out in a few months, just get another
    treadmill that'll die at the same time frame.
    Part of the reason I feel locked in one job:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...weekly-gatings
    Hey you know all that weekly time gate! now that you just got all 330 gear here is a different 450 tome of boring!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    You can have opinions but saying "Go back to X game" doesn't make much for discussion.
    No one has yet talked about End-game minus me, which OP seems to be talking about the most.
    I guess people here are content with the content giving end-game?
    Or there is not much end game to talk about
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    People are free to share their opinion, just like everyone else is free to share their opinion by disagreeing with it. If you want to sit in an echo chamber of agreement you're going to need to find a way to clone yourself.
    That can be done without chasing people away though, meaning "go back to wow" is not really constructive. Why not talk about how the game could be better instead just accepting whatever is given to us while trying not to chase people away?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    Raiding (by which I mean savage) is niche. The amount of players who engage in it is minuscule compared to those who don't. So if you're saying that raiding is the "only real endgame" you're also saying that the majority of those playing FFXIV don't engage in the "only real endgame". So what, pray tell, are they all doing then?
    I consider endgame something you do or rather something you can do with near top gear - bis and feel challenged. For me the best endgame FFXIV had was 3.4, where you had a good chance of failing to HQ 250 gear even with full HQ materials (weapon because of the crystal things don't have HQs) so it was hard. Other then that FFXIV never had an endgame to me, including now. Doing stuff at max level is not endgame to me. I do stuff at 70 because it is something to do, not because it is exciting or anything, but because it is something to do with friends.
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    Last edited by Snow_Princess; 08-20-2017 at 11:25 AM.

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    ElHeggunte's Avatar
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    Naiyah Nanaya
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    You can have opinions but saying "Go back to X game" doesn't make much for discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Snow_Princess View Post
    That can be done without chasing people away though, meaning "go back to wow" is not really constructive.
    Yes, that's true. But it also depends on how someone gives their opinion. If most of their posts boil down to "Well X game did it better" instead of simply explaining how this game could improve, then it's not too egregious to tell them to go and play X game instead of trying to get Y game to copy it.

    Which isn't something I'm attempting to accuse this particular OP of, but when looking at some of his posts I can understand why other posters would call him out on it: if he feels that so many aspects of WoW are better than XIV he might be happier going back to WoW instead of trying (in vain) to change XIV to match it.
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    Nalfein's Avatar
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    Warit Jutamachat
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    Masamune
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    Yes, that's true. But it also depends on how someone gives their opinion. If most of their posts boil down to "Well X game did it better" instead of simply explaining how this game could improve, then it's not too egregious to tell them to go and play X game instead of trying to get Y game to copy it.

    Which isn't something I'm attempting to accuse this particular OP of, but when looking at some of his posts I can understand why other posters would call him out on it: if he feels that so many aspects of WoW are better than XIV he might be happier going back to WoW instead of trying (in vain) to change XIV to match it.
    I really agree with what you said, maybe OP played the same game for so long that he get used to some feature and now feel that something is missing here while it's not. suggestions are great, trying to change the entire game is not.
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