As a new player that really likes this game ...

[Alleo]

The leveup potion thing is a recent addition added solely to help facilitate new people being able to jump ahead to play with friends. It wasn't the best way to facilitate that in my opinion but it was a quick and easy (and less costly in development time/money) way to do so.

The story is the backbone of FFXIV. Paying to skip the story is paying to skip the game and paying to skip the game and then complaining you have nothing to do is stupid.


The story IS the primary content. The stuff gated by the story is just additional content.

You cant have the story as primary content in an MMO. I agree that the story is important in FF14 but it should never be more important than gameplay. This is not a single player game where people buy the game once, play through it one time (or more) and be done with it. This is a game that needs constant money to make more patches and the story alone cant do that. You see this already in this forum where not even one month after the expansion went live, people already complained about having nothing to do. I really did take my time with the story but if you just play a few hours each week you will be through this in less than two months. (And I would dare to say that most will take way less time) You need content after the story to keep people subbed because otherwise you will not make enough money to continue patching the game.

I am still not sure why we did not get something like Eureka from the very beginning. In the end SB is the same as HW just with another paint when it comes to endgame. Heck when I log in I just do yellow script farming even though I know that crafted gear is better, because I simply have nothing better to do in this game right now (Palace is sadly death for me thanks to all the DC..) and I cant take a longer break or I will lose my house..

I started 2 months ago and have been leveling from scratch, NO jump potions, I have beaten ARR and am on the second chapter of HW. People who say this game as no content, have got to be out of their minds, or so veteran that they have done everything.

Yes if you start the game you will mostly have a lot of things to do. Otherwise that would be quite strange. Also yes most of us are veterans that are here for quite some time.

Also please can we stop posting that one can only complain if they finished everything in this game? I mean if we go that way none of us should ever complain if all the devs ever did from now on is introducing huge achievements that can only be done in years of work and nothing more...(Like: Do 100.000 fates..)because we have something to do right? Not every content is for everyone and most of the things on your list are nothing more than side content.

I love glamour gear but dont have much inventory space left to store it, I have lots of mounts and minions, and all free emotes, I do lots of gathering and soon will start SB crafting, I am max rang with my company and have max rang with my commando. I leveled all the beast tribes and done most of the side quests in the game (only some SB ones left for alt jobs)..I have lots of achievements done..yet I also feel that there is barely anything left to do that is truly fun and new.

Its kinda sad how some react to the post from the OP. I dont agree with everything but its just his opinion as a new player that still quite enjoys the game but have some things that would make it even better for him and yet some react like he somehow hates the whole game or something..

@OP: Please calm down a bit. ^^; I can understand that you are frustrated since you posted some criticism and some people just wrote that you should go back to WoW. (And yes I feel like some might take criticism a bit like a personal attack against them) But going around and call people mentally ill is not a good thing to do. This will only bring even the people that are on your side of the arguments against you and might lock the topic. Better to stay nice even after all the "go back to" posts.

But I agree that its sad that a comparison between two games from the same genre often gets quite the negative responds. I for example can easily say that FF14s story is way better told than for example Rifts story. Yet at the same time Rift does housing way better than FF14. I did not play WoW but I have a friend that played it from the beginning till now and also plays FF14 and he does say that WoW does endgame fights better. Its his opinion and not necessarily a fact but lets be honest, those points will alway be subjective. I also see no reason not to compare MMOs. I mean even Yoshida mentions those in his interviews and even said that he was influenced by them.

[Charoy]

So, after a somewhat decent start to the conversation, you drop down to the childish. You want -- no, demand -- more endgame. Here's a tip: The folks who've engaged in conversation since that time are not in a position to give you what you want.

You have also intimated, in that passive-aggressive tone that believes that if you add "if the description fits" it's ok, that anyone who had anything to say after your original post with which you don't agree must be in need of psychiatric care because it is abnormal to try to say something positive about a game they enjoy.

You sir, are a cad.

cad
kad/
nouninformaldated
noun: cad; plural noun: cads
a man who behaves dishonourably, especially towards a woman.

xDDDD, wat? Like, really ... WAT? I'm just laughing my ass off sorry xDD.

[KaivaC]

On the plus side, I feel I need to mention...this does not come close to some of the vitrol over on the WoW forums anything someone tries to bring this comparison up. Seriously lol. Go take a look if you're bored.

[RichardButte]

Meh, I don't play garbage MMOs like WoW

Considering how much of XIV is stolen directly from WoW, the irony is palpable.

One guy would rarely shower because he played WoW 80% of the time, classes were 10%, eating was 5%, and sleeping was 5%. He would make a Sasquatch want to go into Bath & Body Works to get body wash to clean itself.

There are basement-dwelling smelly people playing every MMO out there. Choosing to not practice hygiene is a byproduct of addiction to the sensation of "progress", which MMOs are designed to give their players.

There were people who had the "God/dess of War/Magic/Hand/Land" titles less than a week after SB launched. You really think they were breaking for showers?

On the plus side, I feel I need to mention...this does not come close to some of the vitrol over on the WoW forums anything someone tries to bring this comparison up. Seriously lol. Go take a look if you're bored.

The WoW forums are actually better than the XIV forums. You get more trolls, but the general attitude is more laid back while XIV's forums have their own special brand of nitpickiness.

When people make reasonable QoL suggestions on these forums, there's a certain type of poster that tends to crawl out of the woodwork to explain how the suggestion isn't "necessary" and therefore shouldn't be added, even though that's exactly what a QoL suggestion IS.

Though it's generally the opposite IN game: WoW is much worse in game while XIV's in game community is usually pretty laid back.

[Zarabeth]

It's not a full wow clone, no. However they did copy a lot from them. Smn for example doesnt feel very final fantasy, it's more like wow warlock. Cba to type the rest on phone.

Apparently you never played FFXI, Summoner was awesome. WoW was released 2 years AFTER FFXI. So who was copying whom? Personally I don't see much comparison between warlock and smn, but if there is, well ffxi did it first.

Again if people like wow so much and keep going on and on about how much better it is, why are they here?

Speaking as someone who has actually played all three games, FFXI, FFXIV and WoW the Final Fantasy games are by far the better games. Yes, I do like the way the FFXIV game is set up and I do enjoy the story lines. Also I did love FFXI and have never found a game since to compare to it. However the reason I didn't like WoW was the fact that I could tank anything using only 3 keys. Not exactly a challenge.

To be clear, (as someone keeps trying to twist what I'm saying) I have nothing against those who don't like FFXIV or even don't like some things. No game is perfect that I've ever found. I don't care if people don't want to do the story line. What i do care about is people coming here to whine about how FFXIV isn't Wow. Of course it isn't, it's not meant to be. The devs are not going to make this into a Wow clone. If you want a WoW clone I'm sure you can find one, but please don't try to ruin this game.

[Snow_Princess]

Apparently you never played FFXI, Summoner was awesome. WoW was released 2 years AFTER FFXI. So who was copying whom? Personally I don't see much comparison between warlock and smn, but if there is, well ffxi did it first.

Again if people like wow so much and keep going on and on about how much better it is, why are they here?

So you are basically admitting how your post makes no sense?
FFXI SMN is nothing like FFXIV or wow
FFXIV SMN = wow clone, so much so they gave it spells typically that is BLM to it.

[akaneakki]

I feel the opposite. FFXIV SMN is the most summoner-like incarnation we've had since X.

I'm just going to sit back and asume, but gonna take a guess you never played FF11? FF12 wasn't so bad either, never a was a huge fan of the summon's in FF13 tbh, but I know some people might have liked it.
Anyways, SMN in 14 is dot machine and a nugget like Jybril said, you don't have an actuall Primal with you. FF9 was amazing when it comes to summon story and lore wise as well, I think it was better than FFX, even tho I did and still love FF10!
SMN feels far away from being a SMN in this game. The fact I also hated how the class system turns into job system and we all see how that turned out, they screwed it up. I'm not saying I hate FF14, I still play and like it, but there is so much less Final Fantasy in this game than previous ones.

Apparently you never played FFXI, Summoner was awesome. WoW was released 2 years AFTER FFXI. So who was copying whom? Personally I don't see much comparison between warlock and smn, but if there is, well ffxi did it first.

Again if people like wow so much and keep going on and on about how much better it is, why are they here?

I can't believe what you just said. You just made up some weird shit. FFXI summon was NOTHING like WoW or FF14 SMN. How can you go from FFXI actuall summons and interaction with the summon itself to a turd nugget doing shit on it's own? FFXIV came out after WoW by many years and we all know, that. I just had to type in the obvious since you don't get what I said.

FFXI came out before WoW yes, however, the summon system there was very very Final Fantasy summon compare to what we currently have in FF14. So yes FF14 did copy warlock's from WoW.

So you are basically admitting how your post makes no sense?
FFXI SMN is nothing like FFXIV or wow
FFXIV SMN = wow clone, so much so they gave it spells typically that is BLM to it.

Pretty much yeah.

[Zarabeth]

So you are basically admitting how your post makes no sense?
FFXI SMN is nothing like FFXIV or wow
FFXIV SMN = wow clone, so much so they gave it spells typically that is BLM to it.

I don't know why you are so determined to pretend this, do you work for blizzard? I played FFXI for over 7 years and yes the FFXI version of smn was better IMO than the FFXIV version, but not so different it's unrecognizable as the same job. All I ever see from you on these forums is putting others down and complaining. Obviously you don't like this game, why are you here?

[KaivaC]

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See what I mean? Look above this post. Forum is now turning into a debate about summoner from FFXI. You're good man haha. See, this is my plan...we invade these Eorzeans and turn them on each other. Automatic victory for Garlemald.

[Zarabeth]

I can't believe what you just said. You just made up some weird shit. FFXI summon was NOTHING like WoW or FF14 SMN. How can you go from FFXI actuall summons and interaction with the summon itself to a turd nugget doing shit on it's own? FFXIV came out after WoW by many years and we all know, that. I just had to type in the obvious since you don't get what I said.

I quoted what you said "Originally Posted by akaneakki"
It's not a full wow clone, no. However they did copy a lot from them. Smn for example doesnt feel very final fantasy, it's more like wow warlock. Cba to type the rest on phone.
You were the one who brought smn into this not me. Also you didn't read the full post (as i had to edit for space) Sooooooooooo..... try that.