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    I'm pretty sure if there's a ffxiv villain, it would be gaius...

    I still hope, they'll choose Nael van/Eula Darnus because technically she and Y'shtola are both from 1.0 and Nael was the main villain back then. :3c
    And I would be the happiest person if I could see Ser Zephirin on the side of the bad guys. Not because I want to beat him down but more because I'm one of those weirdos who really really really liked him in Heavensward.
    They could bring Haurchefant as his good-guy-counterpart too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliantheae View Post
    Edda would fun.
    OH HELL YES TO THAT

    In all seriousness, Nidhogg was probably the best developed villian in FFXIV, but him being a huge dragon complicates it. Unless it's Nidstinien, but Estinien is a Kain archetype, and Kain's playable.

    The issue with Garlean characters is with them being inspired visually by Judges of FFXII, that would make implementing them a little repetitive, as we have one. The Ascians suffer from very little individual identity, minus the mostly non-combative Elidibus.

    Edda's one of the few iconic "baddies" that could feasibly be implemented, and I think her design could grab a few non-FFXIV players, but I feel like FFXIV will just follow suit of FFXI and have multible hero characters.

    They have a much larger, better cast to choose from that could add a new flavor of gameplay. Alphinaud could work with his role being pet job could bring some new ideas not possible on the PSP.

    Or a Manderville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The issue with Garlean characters is with them being inspired visually by Judges of FFXII, that would make implementing them a little repetitive, as we have one.
    Which is why Nael would be perfect. Not even the Judges transform into a humanoid Dragon with Bahamut's likeness (I wonder what her summon quote for Bahamut would be).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Which is why Nael would be perfect. Not even the Judges transform into a humanoid Dragon with Bahamut's likeness (I wonder what her summon quote for Bahamut would be).
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?

    It's not just visuals that need to be thought about when considering a new character.

    That said Nael isn't a bad choice thematically if they willingly embrace the whole Eula switch over the White Raven moniker. Perhaps instead go in a similar direction of Smash Bros Corrin, where instead of being a sort of form she can build into, she goes dragon-esque like attack by attack. Or, heck, keep her in dragon form the entire time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?
    Well there's apparently going to be up to 50 characters in the game, so I imagine there'd be a few similar EX abilities.
    Terra and Zidane both use Trance as their EX ability, however Terra's increases her STR, MAG and SPD, whereas Zidane's does a thing for his Steal, as well as allow him to dash for much longer and removes debuffs.

    For Nael, her EX Ability can just be called 'Bahamut's Favour,' which increases her attack power. When she does it a third time, she transforms (permanent unless KO'd). Increased attack power, Brave Regen and movement (this would make her slightly similar to Kuja's EX instead).

    Actually, something else. Lunar Dynamo. It'll still work similarly to the previous idea, but instead it has to actually hit someone. It will either need to be used 1-3 times (depending on how many get hit by it) before you can even transform (and it follows similar rules to FFXIV's. Target must not be too far and not too close). Drains 500 Brave and some HP as well. Changes into Bahamut's Favour after transformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    That brings up a concern gameplay wise as if Neal goes into "Eula loves Bahamut" mode, isn't that just edging in on Terra's gameplay when she goes all Esper?

    It's not just visuals that need to be thought about when considering a new character.

    That said Nael isn't a bad choice thematically if they willingly embrace the whole Eula switch over the White Raven moniker. Perhaps instead go in a similar direction of Smash Bros Corrin, where instead of being a sort of form she can build into, she goes dragon-esque like attack by attack. Or, heck, keep her in dragon form the entire time.
    They could make it so that her super form alters how her attacks behave, similar to Gabranth. But make her less useless outside of that form. <_<
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    Any Lalafell would be my choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightroad View Post
    Any Lalafell would be my choice.
    We already have Shantotto, and I feel that's enough. Not one Lalafell character in XIV is as iconic as Shantotto... not one, even from a villain sense. Yeah Yuyuhase and Lolorito are butts but they're not 'special' butts.

    As far as putting someone in from XIV other than everyone's favorite catgirl (not really), I would think Zenos would be good for the villain side. I preferred him over Gaius or even Nael from 1.0.
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    I know it'll never happen, but it'd be so awesome if Ser Zephirin was the villain and he could change into the Knights of the Round form and do his signature aetheric javelin toss while saying "you shall fall as did your ally".
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    I'd personally opt against anyone currently dead since they're going to be pretty irrelevant for a bulk of the game.

    But if we move beyond the concept of a villain, Hildibrand would be a fun choice.
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