Quote Originally Posted by ArcanoJones View Post
And I point out again which you seem to be ignoring if the group is through the duty finder then new players should be expected. And you should not expect expert play. If you want that. Find your groups in another way.
This. Black Mage. Was not. New. Say it with me now! In fact, this dungeon is in what you would call the EXPERT roulette. If this was, say, a leveling run in Copperbell Normal then this would have been an entirely different discussion. But people who are in endgame content are expected to play with at least a passing form of efficiency, with exception to people who are handicapped in some fashion. I'm really curious now, since you keep insisting on this being the subject of kicking new players; what exactly prompted this whole thread to start with? I'd like to know because it seems like you're stuck on this concept, or else consider all people who perform as that Black Mage did to be "new players."