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    Honestly, the game hinges on the strength of healers now, which is why I tend to not let the Tank be the only one to pressure them.

    IMO, this is where I said things like "sustained damage being important" come into play. The best I've been able to come up with at this point, and is hard to communicate is to split the healer's focus. It's easy to heal one target, it's not to try to heal multiple in this version of PvP. So threaten the healer's own health with one dps (typically the lower one) and the tank - with the tank limiting their CC. Then, when the healer makes the hard choice of who to appropriately heal, the Tank CCs the Healer, and the DPS converge their burst on whatever target the healer chose to neglect in favor of saving.

    It's tricky to pull off, especially with communication as restricted as it is, but doing this tactic repeatedly makes it hard for the healer, who's already going to be strained trying to keep up with all the DPS going around. Enemy Tank and Healer cooldowns really does mean you need to be putting out consistent damage without running out of your own resources too quickly. The idea is to bait out the strong defensive and recovery cooldowns, then catch 22 them into making a poor choice.

    Again, not easy to pull off at all, but it works. That's why just blindly focusing one target isn't the best tactic at all times. These things will begin to iron out and become more prevalent with time though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    This pretty much mirrors my experience and what I've been saying for a while now.

    Healers in the current state of the game suffer and fold under multiple DPS pressure, the only issue with it is, if your healer or tank don't know their roles. But then that battle was lost from the beginning and you're just trying to make the best out of a bad situation.

    Also at least one DPS has to be able to get that kill while health is low and damage is spread. It only takes a second of the pressure letting up for a scholar to get a bunch of lustrates on everyone.

    It puts me in an odd spot in thoughts on balancing, on the one hand healing feels way too important and in some cases beyond way too potent. But on the other hand I've seen how powerful burst can be when a Healer is CC'd and that doesn't seem right either.

    This new PvP they've made is just a huge mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
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    Yea, the more I think about it the more I feel focusing one target with their healer being a really good sch is futile. I just wish I can actually talk to people and tell them we need to split dps then burst the lowest health one when our tank can cc or the sch will just keep everyone we focus up easily
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