What do you think of speed running dungeons.

[AziraSyuren]

I think that most df speedruns... Are not in fact speedruns. Most take as long if not longer than doing it normally. Constantly I see tanks doing giant pulls back to back, never stopping for melee to get TP and then the melee sit around doing nothing until they get enough TP back to actually aoe, making those pulls take forever to kill and draining the healers mana.

Most dungeons are structured so that there's plenty of time to restore TP/MP in between decently-sized pulls without having to stop. Notable exceptions include a few stupid pulls in Bardam's Mettle. Single-pulls are both TP and MP inefficient.

For me, it's not about speed, it's about maintaining a consistent flow, which usually results in doing things quickly.

[Eclipsed]

Most dungeons are structured so that there's plenty of time to restore TP/MP in between decently-sized pulls without having to stop. Notable exceptions include a few stupid pulls in Bardam's Mettle. Single-pulls are both TP and MP inefficient.

For me, it's not about speed, it's about maintaining a consistent flow, which usually results in doing things quickly.

All depends on the group and the dungeon. Someone mentioned goad earlier, which yeah is great... If the other dps has it slotted and uses it... Personally I have yet to get a goad from another dps from outside of my FC. And yes many dungeons are designed with gaps which serve to allow dps to regen in between. But I see a lot of tanks that just go boss to boss without stopping. Without a coordinated group with the right composition this is very innefficient. We aren't talking about FC only groups here with good players and good comps, we are talking about random DFs.

[bswpayton]

All depends on

But the fact of the matter is honestly wats the worse that can happen, you wipe do small pulls and finish the dungeon in thirty mins. I always big pull first , I aoe as a tank, I pop my invincibles always planning out hg, and maybe use living dead on drk or so. If we wipe then in the df what happens the dungeon takes 30 mins just as it would if we did small pulls from the start, you really lose nothing buy doing a big pull right off the bat. I dont understand this whole anti big pull thing when dps could just aoe as well as tanks instead of thinkin your gona kill packs by just single targeting one add and makin the dps do everything to me this is common sense I just dont understand how things go south.