4v4 Practice Mode - SE Please

[Tillen]

Is there a way to, or can SE please implement, practice for 4v4 Ranked Feast? I feel as though 8v8 and Frontlines cannot adequately prepare folks for 4v4. Even a hall of the novice that has tasks like: What to do when being CC'd as a healer, focusing the same target as your co-DPS, CCing a healer, and when to pick up stacks. I think it would help out a lot...maybe. I just feel bad as I try to learn as a healer and end up ruining 3 other peoples' run.
Before 4.0 is was quite simple to Feast and learn on the fly however, I feel with the new changes, the margin for error has decreased substantially. Just as I think I've got it some DPS fails to focus that Tank with 8 stacks, or Tank LoS me and doesn't CC the other healer and all is lost. It is very frustrating especially at the lower tiers.

Implementing a way for unranked, bronze, and even Silver players to train will alleviate the stress that plagues Feast devotes.

And yes, I'm aware the "git gud" comments are incoming but even when I heal everything appropriately it only takes one screw up by someone who doesn't care to screw the match for all 4 of us.

T

[Jigokunoreizasan]

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There is a training mode, It's 8v8. It's just there's no requirement separating players who want to win in ranked and who just queue for the hell of it, there will be nothing different if there was just a "4v4 training mode"

[Tillen]

There is a training mode, It's 8v8. It's just there's no requirement separating players who want to win in ranked and who just queue for the hell of it, there will be nothing different if there was just a "4v4 training mode"

And you're right. Another idea could be unranked against unranked only. Or even adding, let's say, Copper rank. Where people have to achieve a minimum of 100 points in order to play in real ranked matches. This would force people to win a minimu of 4-6 matches before progressing to the real tiers. I just think it is important to protect silver/bronze players from the unranked. Also, I feel as though 8v8 can't properly prepare folks for 4v4. Because of the lack of role restrictions.

[Stormfur]

At least if it's 4v4 training, you don't actually lose anything and you learn your class in PVP a bit more accurately than the clown car simulator that is 8v8.

[KusoWat]

There is a training mode, It's 8v8. It's just there's no requirement separating players who want to win in ranked and who just queue for the hell of it, there will be nothing different if there was just a "4v4 training mode"

It would be vastly different. 4v4 is barely even comparable to 8v8, especially ever since they removed role restrictions.

[Jigokunoreizasan]

It would be vastly different. 4v4 is barely even comparable to 8v8, especially ever since they removed role restrictions.

They just need to retouch up on 8v8, If there's no class restrictions on 8v8 I doubt they'll add one to practice 4v4. Make it so it's 2 healers 2 tanks 4 dps and it'd actually be somewhat playable and not a clown show

[Arthur_Gwen]

That's called preseason

[Aramyth]

That's called preseason

Pre-season isn't good enough for the FFXIV community. Too many people don't know how to play 4v4 pvp. I've seen tanks picking up defense buffs (nobody is going to be attacking the tank in the first ~1.5 minutes of the match, so that's 1.5 minutes of the buff going to waste), melee DPS limit breaking targets without calling out they are using it, healers who stand in the open, healers casting their attack spells when someone is dying next to them, tanks not helping by stunning the healer properly etc. I've seen people call out at the beginning of a game "Attacking ranged" but then the ranged class comes out with a defense buff, well great, switch to the melee or the healer then, don't waste your time attacking the person with the defense buff.... People don't know how to think dynamically. They probably need a guide.

I've never seen a pvp community an MMO as bad as the one in these game. I can't figure out why.

[Cynric]

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Please tell me which quick chat command says "Using Adrenaline Rush on Target!"

The best we can do is let you know we're at 100% so you don't waste that adrenaline sitting on the ground.

[Aramyth]

Attacking healer!
Adrenaline Rush at 100%
Attacking healer!

Then do it two more times, if you think you need to. There you go.