State of Ranged Jobs Discussion

[AdamZ]

If you're melee LBing someone at full HP you're playing pvp wrong, as well as the buff falls by the time anyone gets an LB.

But then you could say everyone is a one shot as long as they are below 8k HP, just saying that if a ranged is topped, they can live.

[Dmal]

Melee LB is 8K right? one stack is 12%. So 8,960 damage (assuming the melee has the 3% damage up, but the ranged has the 3% damage down). So not a one shot, sure damn close, but not one shot.

I am pretty sure I've been one shot with a single medal stack. I might however have perceived it wrong and took additional damage during it. I even remember my healer in that match going out of their way to message me about not taking medals because of that where I was counterarguing that nobody else was taking them and they would have expired.

[Cynric]

Literally every melee has a gap closer, and every one of them not named Samurai can 100-0 a ranged solo in like 2 seconds flat. There are no defense stats in pvp.

Ranged suffers the worst from heavy medal. Nuking on a red mage doesn't do enough damage against a decent healer, plus you could just be silenced if the tank is able to split attention or if the enemy has another form of silence.

Bard does a ton of damage but I don't really notice machinist doing a lot very often, but to be fair the machinist I fight could just be bad. Smn seems to be in a good spot for the most part. Blm hits pretty hard but takes forever to cast those hard hits it seems like.

I dunno I feel like if ranged jobs were toned down anymore they'd be bottom of the barrel bad. Even with the defense buff they get hit pretty hard.

[Elfidan]

I'm not talking specifically about feast when I say a nerf is likely, Though that does bring up a decent question concerning pvp as a whole. What do we do when balance for entry content IE unranked and large scale splashes into ranked feast? I actually was grouped with a couple different RDM in 4v4 feast tonight and they pretty much effectively timed combo for kills which worked out nicely in tandem with me. Personal experience for me is only 8v8 and large scale as RDM and I pretty much nag damage people with spells then finish combo someone while the healer is busy. I'm not an aficionado ,or pro by any means; just a fan willing to try things to accomplish my goals. MCH can be a terror in large scale not to the degree BRD is but again that is personal experience. If anything BLM feels like the odd man out unless every one I see is just missing something in how they play. In large scale the issue I would site with brd apart from retreat tactics is the power of DOTs. The phrase "set it and forget it" comes to mind.

[Jigokunoreizasan]

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Feast should be the gamemode they nerf / balance classes around, not unranked content.

[Elfidan]

Feast should be the gamemode they nerf / balance classes around, not unranked content.

It should be as it is ranked play.

[KusoWat]

Nerf is not likely or even plausible.

Ranged dps are the least impactful role in The Feast as they are the easiest to kill.

They actually do less meaningful damage than melee, as melee have higher burst.

[Takatsuki]

I don't know anyone in the pvp community that thinks ranged dps are unbalanced, and I honestly can't understand why anyone would think that.
The one thing unbalanced about the ranged jobs is probably RDM being completely useless in comparison to the other 3 jobs.

[loreleidiangelo]

I don't know anyone in the pvp community that thinks ranged dps are unbalanced, and I honestly can't understand why anyone would think that.
The one thing unbalanced about the ranged jobs is probably RDM being completely useless in comparison to the other 3 jobs.

I think the OP is probably talking about Frontlines, where everyone is ranged cuz it's safer and the map is huge and yes, melee just get exploded there for the most part as soon as they try to engage. But...lul FLs, let's not dick around nerfing ranged when Feast is the real barometer used for PVP balance.

[Takatsuki]

Oh my bad, I didnt think anyone would take FL serious lul.