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  1. #11
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    Jonnycbad's Avatar
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    Seraphus Highwynn
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    Gilgamesh
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    Lancer Lv 100
    I love FATE bots because if there were no FATE bots, FATEs would be empty around this point in the expansion. When the FATE bots are not up, FATES in every zone are empty and there's nothing I can do about it because I cannot solo them at 61-62. They hurt literally nobody, if anything they make life easier for everyone because FATEs can be completed faster. To be clear, I'm not saying FATE bots are good, I'm saying HAVING FATE bots around is totally good, who can even argue when there are other bodies to take aggro from you and complete the FATE in 1-2 minutes with 0 risk of dying instead of 6-10?
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  2. #12
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    James1o1o's Avatar
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    N'aix Stormrunner
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    To be clear, I'm not saying FATE bots are good, I'm saying HAVING FATE bots around is totally good, who can even argue when there are other bodies to take aggro from you and complete the FATE in 1-2 minutes with 0 risk of dying instead of 6-10?
    FATEs scale with how many players did them the last time round. So it's not making it faster for anyone.
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  3. #13
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    There's also a lot to be said for while the rest of us aren't playing the game because we're sleeping/working/learning/having a life outside the game, these people are literally cheating, earning experience and progressing past what would be humanly possible because they are always online while the rest of us play by the rules.

    I never really understood the attraction of letting a game play itself, anyways...
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  4. #14
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    Mirarara's Avatar
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    Mira Rara
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    Tonberry
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    There's also a lot to be said for while the rest of us aren't playing the game because we're sleeping/working/learning/having a life outside the game, these people are literally cheating, earning experience and progressing past what would be humanly possible because they are always online while the rest of us play by the rules.

    I never really understood the attraction of letting a game play itself, anyways...
    Not that I agree with the usage of bot, different people enjoy the game differently. Some people like to play their character, some people enjoy being the top in something, some people enjoy having high numbers, and some people enjoy having gils even though it's objectively useless in the game.

    I can see why some people prefer botting when their purpose is different.
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  5. #15
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    This honestly annoys me to the point where I don't even want to level with FATEs in a zone if there's any bots around.

    Knowingly benefiting from their existence in any form or fashion really bugs me.
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  6. #16
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirarara View Post
    While bot is against the Terms, I'm more curious about how does bot affect you in this game. Unlike other MMO, bot has minimal effect at the end game of FFXIV.

    All the best gil earning method can't be done by bot anyway.
    It's not so much that a bot will negatively impact me, it's that following the rules has a negative impact. By doing everything without botting, I spend hours upon hours of my time for benefits they get while they are AFK. If SE wants to give the go-ahead and say botting is fine we won't do anything about it, then great! I'll get right on the train first thing tomorrow! But that's not how it works, so I just get to feel jealousy over these people not playing by the rules and getting not only what I have, but actually way more, for nothing.
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  7. #17
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Yeah, Fringes zone is full of bots that you can be 100% sure about. By not banning these accounts, S-E are saying it's a valid way to play.

    To be equal, players who don't bot, or can't bot on PS4, would need to be given free character level boosts, free gil, seals, materials, crystals, etc just for logging in, because the bots can get all that with zero human time spent while the owner of the character sleeps.

    Imagine you work hard all day, and your coworkers aren't even at their desks, but they are getting paid more than you for doing nothing because a bot does their job and it works overtime all the time. Doesn't that make you feel like your time is being wasted doing things that right way?

    It's also horribly immersion- breaking see swarms of bots behaving oddly. Isn't it fair to ask for an online game where every person is a real person, and it's a fair and equal environment free of cheats and hacks.
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  8. #18
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    Imagine you work hard all day, and your coworkers aren't even at their desks, but they are getting paid more than you for doing nothing because a bot does their job and it works overtime all the time.
    And not only that, but your boss says that you shouldn't do this, because it's against the rules. That's the biggest kicker.
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  9. #19
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    Moogly's Avatar
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    Nana Hya
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Let's be clear : bots are wrong and mostly used by gil sellers to make gils.
    A player using it because "FATEing or gathering is boring" or whatever reason is a cheater. This is in no way a valid reason to me : you do your gathering like everybody else, by riding your chocobo et actually playing. If it's boring, just cut the sound off and watch something at the same time (like Grimm which is equally as boring as gathering but surprisingly a fun watch in this case)
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  10. #20
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    Jas710's Avatar
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    Wolf Spyder
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 70
    Policing by SE is and always has been a gigantic joke. How hard is it to create an in-game task force to simply hang out in key areas and drop the hammer on these bots and gilsellers? That monthly report on rmt is a load of complete b.s. when I can log in at this very instant and find offenders within 30 seconds. EASILY.
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