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  1. #21
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    Xruxis's Avatar
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    Jorel Vorj
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    If this threat came as an attack to Tanks that was not my intention.
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  2. #22
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    Xtrasweettea's Avatar
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    Aelda Schuvorther
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xruxis View Post
    If this threat came as an attack to Tanks that was not my intention.
    As someone who mains tank classes, I did not view this as a "Tank attack" thread. This was more of what I believe is a first-of-many-possibles in your future.

    Unfortunately, as I have described in other threads, that is what happens when you go solo in DF. If you go solo in DF, you are submitting to the RNG of who you get. Most runs you will have are OK, nothing great. For the minority amount of time at the either end of the spectrum, you will have awesome runs and the world's worst runs. The best thing to do is to no get emotionally invested in the bad runs and just use the bad runs as learning experiences only.

    As at least one other person on here as suggested, I would also suggest for you to go with at least one other person you trust to do DF. Having the one set person you trust in your party when queuing for DF reduces the chance of your run being bad, and it having the run become just OK.

    Also, as someone else as said in this thread, grow thicker skin. If you play a role that has "responsibility" beyond whacking a monster, growing thicker skin is mandatory. Of course, we call could benefit from growing thicker skin.
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  3. #23
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    Lilac Blackthorne
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xruxis View Post
    If this threat came as an attack to Tanks that was not my intention.
    Although the tank could stun the bee and prevent final sting from going off, it's not his fault, it's our fault. Imagine we just wiped to final sting, instead of going, "Tank you need to stun the bee before final sting goes off." You instead should blame the group as a whole with yourself included. "We need to focus target the bee's and kill them before final sting goes off or stun them as the cast is going off". It's good to remember, a good number of DPS classes have stuns as well and laying all the blame on one person is a good way to lose a party member or start a fight.

    I'm not saying you specifically do this, but I've seen it happen with pugs. A little kindness and empathy can go a long way.
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  4. #24
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    Atabey Guabancex
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    Behemoth
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xruxis View Post
    Ah! See I didn't know that, thank you so much everyone for the replys, I went on run just recent and it went smoothly.
    It's one of those fun dungeons that are no longer designed, where trash can have deadly mechanics and multi-pulls can be deadly if not handled carefully.

    There is also the Doom in the first boss that can only be erased by stepping in the shifting glowing platforms, and bee adds that if ignored will do another Final Sting.

    There was nothing you could do to save that tank. By calling you out, that tank showed he had no clue what he was doing, and the DPS were also not doing what they were supposed to be doing.

    Edit:

    I remember my first run as a healer through Sohm Al. That first pull can be hard even for an experienced healer, even if the tank uses cool downs. I was new, undergeared, and the tank didn't use cool downs, and he barraged me because he died nearly instantly. I never forgot the Tank's name, in part because it was extremely ironic. He ended dropping from the dungeon and I even just went and looked up his profile (wont name him) and he never got his DRK past 54. Usually players that yell out and vent like children are doing so because they, themselves, are just bad. Don't be surprised if those players end up quitting their roles or even the game by the time you get to 70, so don't let the words of terrible players get to you.
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    Last edited by Ogulbuk; 08-14-2017 at 11:49 PM.

  5. #25
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    I think I should have made my Blame the Healer humor excuses a bit more outlandish as some people read it and Wooosh right over the head.
    So, rather than cat walking across keyboard:

    People may even try to throw in internet connections, hardware playing up, cat walking across keyboard hamster trying to mate with my gaming mouse.
    All these should be dispensed with, cast aside, they are falsehoods.
    If your point was that people frequently lie about why they're playing badly, yes, obviously that's true, but people also frequently have internet/hardware problems. It's better, in my mind, to just believe them (or act as if you believe them) because it's really not worth the drama and internet problems especially can be frequent enough that who are you to call it a lie?
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  6. #26
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    As echoed, such is the life of a healer. Something goes south, even if it's not your fault, you'll be blamed. Not always mind you. Buth healers and tank are often the ones who get the most flack when things aren't going to plan, even if it's somebody else who's messing up. And whilst a healer can help pick up the slack when other people mistakes, there's less room for everybody else to pick up the slack if the healer makes mistakes. Which is why I am happy to help when on my RDM if it's necessary.

    if a person is being a douche, handle it as you see fit. Kicking them for harassment can be great, especially if they're a DPS, because of DPS queues. Or reporting for harassing. Or if you can say something witty enough to put them in their place, maybe that can be cathartic and make them think twice. Or just put up with it and just put it down to the luck of the draw. Of course, you could do customer service thing, do the minimal required to do your job.
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  7. #27
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    Jibikly Pureheart
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    Ragnarok
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    I main healers in different mmos for years and this is nothing new... its the life of a healer. A few years ago I watched this guide that changed my way of thinking. You are not alone..

    https://youtu.be/2DxS7eT_ky4

    Enjoy
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  8. #28
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    Jorel Vorj
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    Lmao! Best guide ever!
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  9. #29
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    Nic Pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Most importantly, the tank should be stunning at least 1 of the Final Stings.
    To bad se took our stuns away and palidan is the only one wit a stun
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  10. #30
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    To bad se took our stuns away and palidan is the only one wit a stun
    Well yeah, but all tanks do get Low Blow which can be used to stun 1 enemy at least.
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