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  1. #11
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    Xruxis's Avatar
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    Jorel Vorj
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    Zalera
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    Astrologian Lv 58
    Ah! See I didn't know that, thank you so much everyone for the replys, I went on run just recent and it went smoothly.
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  2. #12
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    Gunnie's Avatar
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    Scarlett Rayne
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    Twintania
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Final sting can do up to 70-90% of the tank's HP. The bees can be interupted, if that's not possible the tank should use a cooldown to soften the blow. DPS should focus 1 bee down at a time if there's 2, spreading the DPS with 2 low DPS means 2 final stings. Lethal for anyone if it hits.
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    Life's a game, gaming is my life.

  3. #13
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    cat walking across keyboard (this last one is actually something I did read when healing a group).
    All these should be dispensed with, cast aside, they are falsehoods.
    But my cat is an asshole and does this.

    I also live in the country, so my internet connection is very poor a good chunk of the time. I do my best to only queue when it's stable, but sometimes I just get hit with a lag spike out of nowhere. If you honestly believe people can't have internet/hardware/other issues like children or pets interfering, you probably shouldn't be doing duty finder.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  4. #14
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    New_Game_Plus's Avatar
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    Pollux Luminous
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    Mateus
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    But my cat is an asshole and does this.
    I can attest to this. There have been plenty of times where just out of nowhere my cat will jump on me and lay across the keyboard just so I'll rub her belly.
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  5. #15
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KalinOrthos View Post
    Ah, Qarn. This dungeon is the first introduction that I know of, of "Final Sting". The little hornets in some pulls have a sort of final attack that has them doing upwards of 50% of the maximum health of the tank. They hurt, bad.
    Something that helps me deal with this is mark the bee to be killed first. Most dps switch when they see a big fat 1 on a mob's head. And of course I dot it and dps it myself if healing allows for it.

    Final Sting has a cast bar so you can see the spell being casted on your enemy list or your target pane. If it is being casted, start precasting a heal so that it will land directly after Final Sting hits, so your tank will get topped up asap.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 08-14-2017 at 09:34 AM.

  6. #16
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by New_Game_Plus View Post
    I can attest to this. There have been plenty of times where just out of nowhere my cat will jump on me and lay across the keyboard just so I'll rub her belly.
    Coincidentally, right after i posted that, my cat ran behind my desk and did...something, managing to turn off both my power strip and pull on the monitor cord hard enough to unseat my video card.

    I love him. He's a jerk though.
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    cerise leclaire
    (bad omnicrafter & terrible astrologian)

  7. #17
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    Coincidentally, right after i posted that, my cat ran behind my desk and did...something, managing to turn off both my power strip and pull on the monitor cord hard enough to unseat my video card.

    I love him. He's a jerk though.
    I think I should have made my Blame the Healer humor excuses a bit more outlandish as some people read it and Wooosh right over the head.
    So, rather than cat walking across keyboard:

    People may even try to throw in internet connections, hardware playing up, cat walking across keyboard hamster trying to mate with my gaming mouse.
    All these should be dispensed with, cast aside, they are falsehoods.
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    Last edited by Teraluna; 08-14-2017 at 04:52 PM.

  8. #18
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    Ragnah's Avatar
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    Character
    Chabis Raclette
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Playing as a Tank main and midcore Healer i can say some things.

    As a Tank i see:
    Healers need to me more reactive. I see a lot of Healers just spamming one Button Physick/Cure2. You have so many other skills/buffs and instant heals on your Hotbar.
    A lot of Healers are just too slow/lazy casting one Heal like every 5-7 seconds and doing nothing else. When there is a little damage spike they tend to be overwhelmed and dont know what to do.
    Pls make some research and know the differences and the pros/cons of each tanks. Its not much since there are only 3.
    If you "always get the bad Tanks" you maybe have to step up your game.

    As a Healer i see:
    A lot of Tanks not using CDs and pulling way too much. But somehow i manage to heal them and finding some chance to do DPS. Thanks to my buffs, HoTs and oGCD.
    Keep track of their CDs like focustarget.

    Many Tanks dont know which mobs are doing magic damage. So keep your eyes out for that.
    Try healing a lot trough your HoTs and instant heals (oGCD) and combo them with your buffs etc.
    Be fast and think fast, you cant sleep as a healer like in Sastasha. Those times are over!

    For both roles:
    Know where the big damage is and try to know or predict the next mechanic. For precasting hots/heals and using cds etc.

    Blaming the Tank/Healer isnt going anywhere if you dont know what happend. In that case its always your fault.
    If you know what happend and you can explain why or how then feel free to blame/bully.

    EDIT: If your DD's are shit you have to heal a lot more. Tanks too have a limitations to their CDs so if mobs are living more than 2min they cant do anymore, so its probably RIP.
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    Last edited by Ragnah; 08-14-2017 at 05:08 PM.

  9. #19
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    The_Last_Dragoon's Avatar
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    Character
    Renabi Rena
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    If the problem is the bees with Final Sting during the Teratotaur then it's definitely a problem with dps not killing the bees (as long as the tank isn't dying outright, which would mean he's not doing the doom mechanic correctly). Those bees that are summoned are not hard to kill, so unless both of your dps is undergeared or unaware, you should be easily passing this dps check. Heck, if the tank was gear level sync'd he could have switched over to damaging the bees and probably killed at least one of them before they start casting Final Sting.
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  10. #20
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    Xruxis's Avatar
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    Jorel Vorj
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 58
    Well I don\\'t claim to be the best healer out there and I know there is still a lot for me to learn, however as the healer role I mostly lvl just doing dungeon since it\\'s so fast to get in them, I\\'ve done this dungeon before countless times when I started AST and about 8 or more as SCH, so if I do well in all runs except one and I know things aren\\'t going well, should I just say it\\'s all my fault? That wouldn\\'t make since because I know the basic of healing, I don\\'t let my tanks get lower then 70% health and have even been told by other healers that i should wait until half before healing, I disagree because anything can happen, my point is that I know it wasn\\'t just "me", yes I lacked the knowledge about the final sting but when you are dropping in seconds even though my fairy and myself are healing you.. something is wrong, I also shield my tanks before each pull, perhaps I need to learn to play SCH better since I have never had any issues like this on AST.
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