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    What's to stop someone from playing archer rather than bard in a full group?
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    quite frankly in a game where lvling is this easy, yea the solution is pretty much lvl more classes so you have more options.
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    Nothing. As far as endgame is concerned, though, the monsters will be balanced with Monk/Warrior/BLM/Dragoon DPS in mind. While Archer might come close and beat PGL/LNC/MRD DPS the same won't happen with Jobs because they are better DD's. Archer's Job on the other hand is Bard which isn't even designed to boost ARC's DPS in comparison to rest of the Jobs, but to support them.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 12-29-2011 at 11:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
    Have been consistantly turned down for mog battle partys because they are looking for arc only DD... apparently because of the need to avoid AOE attacks.

    cant believe its come to this again.. its rediculous lol.

    i give up trying to play this game.
    Bad players with blind pride for their standartized achievements and a sense of value in victory through any means will always exist, and in this game, as I hear it was in XI, they'll exclude any class that isn't optimal, any player that dies a couple of times, any character with non optimal gear, if not just dismiss the player altogether if it doesn't have all level 50's.

    My personal advise (that I have been following myself), is to find guys that play well and don't hold the characteristics I described above, and in due time complete that content. Some might still need specific class or enhanced equipament, as for instance the moogle fight being a notch up from Ifrit wouldn't stray from it's reason to be if it required gear filled with materia, but definetly in a group of friends there wouldn't be such excluding postures.
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    Please SE stop feeding the trolls.


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    There is really only one problem, and that is as a ranged/backline DPS, Archer shouldn't do nearly as much damage as any melee DPS. That's all there is to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    There is really only one problem, and that is as a ranged/backline DPS, Archer shouldn't do nearly as much damage as any melee DPS. That's all there is to it.
    Neither should Black Mages then...
    It's ok if they do more damage than melee. Arrows cost gil. If the economy was actually well thought out, there would be a heavy demand for arrows and that would keep carpenters busy forever. Unfortunately, we got FFXIV.
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    All I see is hurr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue View Post
    Have been consistantly turned down for mog battle partys because they are looking for arc only DD... apparently because of the need to avoid AOE attacks.

    cant believe its come to this again.. its rediculous lol.

    i give up trying to play this game.
    Stop crying, make your own party. Only the faction of elitists ask for that. Just yesterday I was in an usual party for Ifrit and we did really good (best runs I did so far).

    My advice: stop being a sheep and play the way you want with other people like you.
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    LOL cash shop! SE's way to tell their player how they appreciate them... pull the carrot and empty your pockets $$$
    And to those who support it: you are kicking yourselves. -- We just need to sit back and laugh at people with cash shop items.
    (Marvelous economics IQ test!)

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    Perhaps because these aren't some FFXIV-unique lvl50-specific Japan-Only-MMO concepts we are talking about here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Perhaps because these aren't some FFXIV-unique lvl50-specific Japan-Only-MMO concepts we are talking about here.
    No, I just find it interesting that you have posted about lvl 50 content before when you aren't even lvl 50 yet. . .
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    I had previously asked what's to stop someone from playing archer rather than bard in a full group.

    Now the flip-side: what's to stop someone from playing bard (or any job) when solo?
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