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    Corrderio...

    Whatever it is you're having, I want some too. Where can I find something that can make someone so delusional?

    The classes are balanced to a sufficient degree. The community enforces status quo "rules" to not deal with n00bs. This is not something SE can fix - they can only discourage it. Discourage it they have.

    Jobs will change everything there is about endgame Full Party content. It's the reason for their implementation.
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    What's so special about "Jobs" that everyone is like "They will change the whole game!"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    What's so special about "Jobs" that everyone is like "They will change the whole game!"?
    Job specific gear, abilities and stat changes?

    Granted, will not "change the whole game", but will surely affect high level party play / "endgame"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    What's so special about "Jobs" that everyone is like "They will change the whole game!"?
    They will change how Archer plays, differentiating itself from the rest of the DPS classes by becoming a buffer.

    The rest of the DPS Jobs are still a question mark, but the most obvious current flaw of ARC dominancy over short-range DPS taken care of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    They will change how Archer plays, differentiating itself from the rest of the DPS classes by becoming a buffer.

    The rest of the DPS Jobs are still a question mark, but the most obvious current flaw of ARC dominancy over short-range DPS taken care of.
    Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonnji View Post
    Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?
    Unfortunately for me? Other Jobs will do more damage and ARC's only saving grace is not being utilized.

    They can keep being stubborn, it makes me wonder though- who would be dumb enough to invite a subpar DD with no other redeeming qualities? Unfortunately for people like them, for the reasons stated above I'm not going to do so. Shocking, ain't it?

    Actually, it may be more likely that I will be the Bard doing my job properly and getting invited while laughing at the princess Archers who have to beg to be able to participate. So unfortunate for me.
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    Last edited by Betelgeuzah; 12-30-2011 at 04:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonnji View Post
    Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?
    Welcome to FFXIV, this is not FFXI.

    We don't know how Bard even works yet. For all you know, you're going to hit one button to pop a 2 minute duration song and then go right back to your damage dealing rotation the way you've been doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonnji View Post
    Unfortunately for you, some ARCs out there are planning to just keep shooting arrows, instead of turning selves into an MP/HP bitch for your party. Shocking, ain't it?
    So a class with sub-par DPS compared to other classes - let alone their empowered Jobs - as opposed to a highly desirable buffing Job with unique buffs unavailable through other means that can also put out equal or higher DPS than it's class counterpart?

    Good luck getting into any Full Party of Jobs with that attitude. ARC isn't getting a DPS focused Job. If you leveled ARC to DPS only, you've been informed well in advance that the first Job being released for it is not a DPS-centric one. Perhaps, and this is likely, they will implement a Sniper/Ranger Job accessible by ARC in the future, but be forewarned that this is not a situation one can best by perseverance.

    You simply will not be welcome in any competitive Full Party tackling endgame content after 1.21 on ARC. Plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    What's so special about "Jobs" that everyone is like "They will change the whole game!"?
    Can't believe I'm about to answer this guys OT question after he;

    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    No OT please <.<
    Make an extra thread for that.
    'd me in another thread.

    But, depending on:

    Bard
    Blunt Shot - Physical damage on enemies around target.
    Rallying Voice - Increases the maximum HP and certain magic effects of all party members within range.
    Ballad of Magi - Gradually restores MP of all party members within range.
    Paeon of War - Gradually restores TP of all party members within range.
    Minuet of Rigor - Increases physical and magical accuracy of all party members within range.

    that abilities cooldown, and;

    Black Mage
    Convert - Switches current HP and MP values.
    Burst - Deals Lightning damage. Combo Action: Thundara Combo Bonus: Increased damage based on your HP.
    Sleepga - Inflicts target and all enemies in range with Sleep.
    Flare - Deals Fire damage to nearby enemies. Additional effect: "Damage over time"
    Freeze - Deals Ice damage to the target. Additional effect: "Enmity down"

    those abilities cooldown,

    you may see a ton of BRD, BLM BLM BLM BLM BLM BLM BLM groups. Completely changing the way the game can been played thus far (not by class stacking, but gameplay). Regardless, even if those abilities are moderated to not be super OP (sleep resistant mobs, retardedly long cooldowns), there will still be some complete 'Relearning of the class/jobs' period of time when the new patch hits.

    My post wasn't even off topic in that other thread.
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    Last edited by SniperRifle; 12-29-2011 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    Discourage it they have.
    Sorry, but I don't see how they discouraged it.
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