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    The Isle the Haragin discovered

    This is my first post!!!
    While reading the Encyclopaedia Eorzea, I came across and interesting passage where it states that, the tribe of Haragin, sailed to the endless easter and returned with tales of a terrible island covered in massive grey monoliths and inhabited by steel fire breathing demons. Seeing how we\\'ve gained a bigger view of our map, where could this island be? By the monolith part, I thought it could be Sealed Rock, but there\\'s no "fire breathing steel demons" there, unless you count black mages in Ironworks gear. So any guesses?
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    It sounds like they might've just passed by Garlemald during their voyages.

    Their massive buildings and magitek would naturally come across as extremely bizarre to a more primitive culture like the Xaela that generally remain disconnected from the rest of the world.
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    It's highly unlikely to be Seal Rock, since there's at least one continent in the way if you sail east from Othard intending to reach Aldenard. Double-checking sources, it appears that Seal Rock is also in the Straits of Merlthor, between Vylbrand and Aldenard, so they'd have to somehow bypass Vylbrand itself along the way.

    Not to mention the sheer distance, but that's an obvious issue.

    It's probably a reinterpretation of some form of advanced machina, manned or otherwise. The Vanu Vanu did describe the magitek claws of the Garlean Empire as "black feathers" from some unknown huge beast, so there is some precedent. "Massive grey monoliths" are probably buildings.

    It's also probably not the Garlean Empire, since the Empire only really advanced as far as they have in the past sixty years or so, well within living memory, and they'd have to go through the Azim Steppes anyway to expand eastwards past Othard. (I don't actually think the Garlean Empire has expanded past Othard yet? Doma seems to be their easternmost territory, with rumblings of wanting to take over the Ruby Sea.)

    Hingashi is east of the Othardian continent, but I'd assume Xaela would already know who the Hingans are, and I'd hardly describe their architecture as "grey monoliths". ("Fire-breathing steel demons" is a possibility, given the automatons Hingans and Domans are skilled in crafting.)

    The prime suspect are the Allagans, since apparently everything remotely high-tech yet ancient in the setting is Allagan or Magi. I'd be much happier if it turned out to be something completely new, though, especially if it's not a one-off.
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    Yeah Sealed Rock definitely couldn't have been the island. And I doubt its Garlemand cause its an island, the Garlean Empire its situated in the mountains of Ilsabard. As for Allagan, it could very well be it but what has me puzzled its the fire breathing steel demons. In the game we clearly have dragons but they are obviously flesh and blood but this whole metal thing is odd.
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    Well, they sailed out across the eastern sea... as I recall the New World is somewhere between that sea and Eorzea / Aldenard / Ilsabard, so it's unlikely to be anywhere we've visited yet.

    Maybe they didn't even find anything at all. Maybe they did. It's just a myth, so until we have evidence the Haragin actually did find something I wouldn't think too hard about it.
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    Yeah, if we go by the most likely idea that the New World is to Othard's East, but Vylbrand and the rest of the "Old' World's" West, it'd likely be something there we have yet to see. Now, if we encounter some mamool ja that's mention their homeland and something sounding like metallic fire breathers, we'd have more of a hint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlakeWolfe View Post
    Yeah, if we go by the most likely idea that the New World is to Othard's East, but Vylbrand and the rest of the "Old' World's" West, it'd likely be something there we have yet to see. Now, if we encounter some mamool ja that's mention their homeland and something sounding like metallic fire breathers, we'd have more of a hint.
    I'm not sure how large the New World is supposed to be, though. Most of the known contact is from the east coast of the New World, since Ketenramm (and more recently Merlwyb) sailed west from Vylbrand to meet the Mamool Ja and their Autarch. If the New World is anything like Eorzea's size, that would be like making contact with Ala Mhigans and assuming that the Limsans are the same.
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