Thread: Absolutely no balance changes for PvP in patch 4.06?

This is disappointing, to say the least.

I think I speak for most of the PvP community when I say that we were surprised to see season 5 of the Feast announced for as early as 4.06 - and even more surprised when 4.06 was announced for today, mere days after it was revealed, when we expected the season to start around late August or early September.

Still, after an overall good first round of adjustments in 4.05, we assumed that it wouldn't be so bad. 4.06 would bring the last few tuning changes, namely to the WAR, AST, SCH and RDM jobs, with maybe some PLD tuning, and we'd all be set for a competitive season 5. Multiple threads were left on this very forums for feedback on the AST job, the BLM job, the RDM job and the tank role, respectively.

Why were all those threads ignored? None of them got so much as a reply or even an acknowledgement from the dev team, and now the competitive season will begin with literally zero PvP change while some glaring balance issues continue to exist. I simply can't understand the thought process behind this and I know I am not alone.

As it stands now, the WAR job is laughably bad, being the only tank without a stun in a new system where CC is much more crucial and scarce, while its damage output is matched by the DRK (and PLD not so far behind) when both of those jobs bring tons of utility to their team. The RDM job is also undertuned, its burst is underwhelming and predictable, and leaves them vulnerable, which no other ranged job has to deal with. SCH is still a broken mess, far above both other healers in their MP management and damage output while the dev team doesn't seem to know what to do with Broil (seriously, why not just make it a basic enfeeblement similar to what the other two healers have????). AST still has Deorbit, a very niche (read: practically useless) ability that takes one of 9 crucial spots as they struggle with ways to increase their healing throughput and their self defense as they can't place Synastry on themselves.

Overall, the competitive season is not ready to start just yet. Most jobs are balanced, but the imbalances that remain are way too big to be ignored - WAR being a waste of a tank slot in the party, for starters. I hope we can at least get an official response to this thread to let us know when further PvP balance changes are to be expected, and why the multiple threads of feedback we left on the forums were ignored.

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure most of the PvP changes will happen in 4.1, along with that new PvP mode that they were talking about before launch, which should be before the end of the current season.

Don't worry guys- They separated pve and pvp so they can balance and make adjustments better and fast.

We eventually got freelancer mode and we may eventually get that Shatter ice adjustment that they talked about a year ago. They'll balance pvp at some point.

Originally Posted by Nezerius

I'm pretty sure most of the PvP changes will happen in 4.1, along with that new PvP mode that they were talking about before launch, which should be before the end of the current season.

Sure, but why would they not balance for their official season. At least make an attempt to make some of the classes not so mediocre as they are right now.

I'm just confused why there's no balance changes AT THE START OF A SEASON when they were "using" preseason to get feedback. Simply dissapointed.

Volene literally nailed everything spot on. Like what kind of dev/community team has a stream with glaring issues in Frontlines alone and does not address or adjust anything. Many of us have been optimistic about this overhaul in PVP with the fact that its completely separated from PVE in hopes that we can expect faster and more efficient adjustments (which were promised in past live letters). And after 2 monthes this is all we get? This is embarrassing for development team that put so much effort in overhauling a great content with so much potential and just leaving it back on the "we'll get to it later" shelf. This day is truly an embarrassing and disappointing day for all who care about PVP and enjoy a passion for this content despite its reprisal from PVE community and lack of feedback and/or any form of communication besides "report/we'll look into it" blasphemy.
#we'restilllookingforwardtoit

As much as I love playing MCH, I was really hoping for RDM improvements so I could try that in the Feast. . . This is really disappointing.

And I want to mirror Volene's question: Why were the feedback threads not even so much as acknowledged? SE asks for feedback, and we give it, but then what?

I was kinda iffy about this Feast season, having boycotted 4 previously, but this honestly just sucked all the hope and anticipation for Season 5 right out of me

what was the point of preseason if you're not gonna change anything for the first official season of stormblood. . .I thought the main purpose was to see with the new job system how they would function in the new pvp system and thus make a adjustments as respectively.

The simple solution with not having to sacrifice time for the dev team, a closer relationship to your players and further understanding of the game in all. Is to please listen to the pvp community more than to just make ghost changes! A lot of people are upset for this patch on an international level not just NA.

unfortunately true, Yoshi PLS more like Koji PLS?

Have you seen the JP forums not even they're in agreement with this current patch.