MCH 6 GCD in Wildfire

[Fannah]

I only come back now as I prefered to don't come back on it directly. It was too long to be accurate to make you understand the way you won't misunterpret what I'm saying as you did before.

I simply wanted to make sure that people don't overestimate this latency issue and are discouraged from playing mch for no reason. [...] 6gcd oh wf is not a thing and will likely never be.

So unfortunately, you got me wrong, I never meant machinists were bad or anything, it makes you lack of objectivity regarding the topic if you have such an idea in mind, defend this idea whatever happens, but without talking about it so I could be more clear about it instead of remaining mysterious hoping people won't misinterpret what I'm saying. I love machinist, I don't think they are bad or even in need for improvement, but I don't like having such design detail making people feel like they have the choice about it while actually don't really have it, and possibly making them feel like they are missing something (the part you certainly mean you are afraid people think the class is bad because of this mechanic behaviour). I prefer it to be, or possible, or impossible. I never said machinists suddenly suck because some can and some can't do that.
And I don't see why I should not speak about it because some people could interpret it your way like "lol machinist can't even 6 GCD OH/WF" or whatever stupid idea.

So yea, it's hard to follow you, and it actually started getting annoying as I started to believe you did it on purpose, like counter argumenting yourself. Which made no sense.

What I'm saying is that you cannot ignore the skill base potency and forget about it if it's not during wf, which is what you're implicitly doing here.

You did not understand what I did, as I did not do what you say, I was actually comparing what you said here :

As I already said that 6th gcd is a non heated split shot with the barrel off penalty.[...] No big deal

Here, you are the one who said the 6th GCD was a non heated split shot. So it's like saying it was not possible to overheat with that 6th shot. But, at another post you said it was possible to do a 6th GCD in OH. Just, pick a side, you should not say both as it's just non sense. Of course that 6th shot exists even without Wildfire.

This means it's only a 160 potency weaponskill while the average potency of the other weaponskills you use during wildfire is close to 300. [...] You'd be gaining 40 potency in your first wildfire session only when a wildfire session is around 3500 total base potency.

It's not a 160 base potency, but a 230 base potency with (at least) overheat bonus if you use Cooldown.
The combo CD-3-2-3-CD (+ G.Round and Ricochet) actually have a total potency of 1967*1.08*1.25*1.2 = 3187, you just added like 10% power to it to defend your idea...
255+295[crit *1.48]+255+290+230+200+300 (crit is approximatively *1.48 dmg) = 1967 potency, adding 230*1.08*1.25*1.2 instead of 160*1.08*1.2 if done just with overheat. --> 373-207 = 166 bonus potency, It's far from the 40 you talk about... And knowing it needs actually 2.4GCD minimum to do it, if you get that skill speed (which is not a lot) it actually means you are able to land one more GCD per minute (I didn't count if it was troublesome for getting overheat every 60sec)

You should only consider incremental potency gains and instead you're pretending that the 6th overheated shot doesn't exist if it's not executed under wildfire. So the actual potency gain would be 25% of that 6th shot.

I was comparing what you said "6th GCD non overheated, so just a 160 potency" with my 6th GCD could be overheated and then use Cooldown with 230 + bonuses. I was not comparing anything else. You make up things to be right, you tell me the 6th hit is not overheated and then when I use your saying of 6th shot not overheated (nor with wildfire) with my version with overheat + wildfire, you come back on it and say I did a mistake to don't count it as I always do but I used your exemple not taking the 6th shot with overheat. Just make sense, it's annoying to speak with someone just defending a hidden idea "machinist are fine" with approximative made up arguments where you just seem to try to trick people into mistakes we don't even do but that you did, saying the 6th shot was not overheated.

All those explanations and this topic is not about saying machinist is bad, but if people still complain about machinist, I suggested in the 1rst post some way for improvement if and only if people still complain about MCH.