MCH 6 GCD in Wildfire

[Fannah]

Here, we can see the streamer Aiurily Ari setting 6 GCD in her Wildfire with only 2.48GCD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSM4_vWwss (I've caculated it's dmg and yes it's all taken in count).

On my side, I can only set 5GCD in it with 2.43GCD. Even if I go on a dummy, that I use Rapid Fire before, then Wildfire and just spam the Split Shot button, only 5 GCD will be taken in count despite of the 6th Split shot dmg being before the Wildfire dmg in the battle logs.

Info : I have 2.43GCD
My ping info on the european server is 21ms average (I used the 195.82.50.46 shown in the task manager/TCP connection menu for ffxiv_dx11.exe (+ I'm on Moogle server/Datacenter Chaos in Frankfurt, Germany)).
My ping to neolobby06.ffxiv.com is 22ms average (195.82.50.9) (neolobby06 is for europe, it's neolobby01, 03 and 05 for Japan, and neolobby02 and 04 for NA).
In my task manager, it's written Latency = 20 (min) or 30 (average) or 40(max) (yes, it only goes from 10 to 10).

Is there anything wrong? I believe my connection for a MMORPG to be fine. Can the Frame Rate to be a reason why, aside the connection one? (my game is going well on my computer, and I've set "60FPS", not "unlimited" and in the menu it's shown I got 50FPS average) or any other setting?
It seems way too accurate in an unfair way to get 6GCD. And I believe they should make Wildfire works another way or set 11sec to the timer, even if it's ugly for them to have a countdown of 11.

Suggestions :

- 1) Make the countdown to be 11sec.

or
- 2) Make the countdown starts at the 1rst GCD on the moment it hits (so we get rid of the Wildfire time animation and the start of our 1rst GCD time animation while still having a "10sec countdown") (so the target has like a "Wildfire ready" status waiting for it to be triggered, it could technically last 5sec max without being triggered).

or
- 3) Make a double condition ("or" type) to explose :
a) After 12sec, auto explose
or
b) After 8 hits oGCD+GCD -> explose
(so it's like a countdown based on the number of hits with GCD and oGCD we did --> So if we want it to explose quickly we will have to hurry to use the 6GCD + Gauss Round + Ricochet the faster we can, + thx to the "a" timer countdown, we still will have to don't waste it as the boss will have his invulnerable phases).

If you have any other suggestion : feel free to give one.

[Lastelli]

You can fit 6gcd in the wf+oh window only if you force oh with ft and you start your wf session (I usually start with cd) as soon as ft ticks. If you're going oh with a shot it won't work.

[Fannah]

It's not about overheat, I didn't mention it. I only speak about wildfire dmg.

I said using Wildfire and just spam 6 GCD doesn't work for me (with Rapid fire even before the Wildfire so there is not a single oGCD used between GCD during my Wildfire).

[Lastelli]

It's not about overheat, I didn't mention it. I only speak about wildfire dmg.

I said using Wildfire and just spam 6 GCD doesn't work for me (with Rapid fire even before the Wildfire so there is not a single oGCD used between GCD during my Wildfire).

Are you delaying your wf until about 60-70% of your gcd?

[Fannah]

I don't use any GCD before, I just use Rapid Fire, then wait like 1-2sec to take my time being sure I'm ready, and then I almost instantly press Wildfire and Split Shot button (and spam it until the end) while testing it on a dummy.
Then I go in the In game battle logs, and I additionate all the auto attacks and GCD + oGCD dmg *0.25. And the 6th (and last) Split Shot before Wildfire in the logs is not taken in count.

Edit : I will soon host a picture of my in game battle logs (re-edit : Screenshot loaded, just see some posts below).

[Lastelli]

I don't use any GCD before, I just use Rapid Fire, then wait like 1-2sec to take my time being sure I'm ready, and then I almost instantly press Wildfire and Split shot button (and spam it until the end) while testing it on a dummy.
Then I go in the In game battle logs, and I additionate all the auto attacks and GCD/oGCD dmg *0.25. And the 6th (and last) Split Shot before Wildfire in the logs is not taken in count.

Edit : I will soon host a picture of my in game battle logs.

Oh, of course, you can fit 6 GCD in the OH window but only 5 in the WF window! Check Aiurily's MCH openers vid carefully. 6 GCD is for OH only.
So you'll have 6 gcd while overheated, but only 5 will be counted for WF damage. That's ok.

[Fannah]

Well, Aiurily said in her video description all her OH had 6 GCD in it with a 2.48GCD stat, so I've checked the video carefully and realized it even worked for her 1rst Wildfire (I didn't check the others).
If you look at her 1rst Wildfire around 0:30 :

[Skill] : [DMG]

Wildfire : 22519dmg

Clean - 10431 (1rst GCD)
Slug - 10840 (D.Hit) (2nd GCD)
AA - 4123 (D.Hit)
Clean - 14214 (D.Hit) (3rd GCD)
G.Round - 9097
CD - 10105 (4rth GCD)
Ricoch. - 15823 (Crit)
CD - 7755 (5th GCD)
AA - 1953
Split - 6787 (Crit) (6th GCD) (yup, her OH was over)


10431 + 10840 + 4123 + 14214 + 9097 + 10105 + 15823 + 7755 + 1953 + 6787 = 91128
91128*0.25= 22782 (her Wildfire was 22512dmg , and there are always some dmg point difference).

So there was 6GCD counted in it :/ It's possible

[Fannah]

Here is my screenshot with my battle logs :


Sorry, my game is in French. The skill Wildfire is "Flambée", and Split shot is obviously "Tir scindé" (tell me if there is something else you need to get translated).
And you can see there are 6 Split shots between the start of Wildfire and the end of it (and even an auto attack between the last Split Shot and the end of Wildfire).

(sorry I failed and double posted, so I use that double post to put my screenshot here).

About calculation :
Wildfire : 2519 dmg

Auto attack : 659 (yes the 1rst auto attack is taken in count if it's landed because you activated Wildfire to start the fight)
1rst Split Shot : 1509
2nd Split Shot : 1989
Auto attack : 661
3rd Split Shot : 1345
Auto attack : 606
4th Split Shot : 1411
Auto attack : 603
5th Split Shot : 1310
6th Split Shot : 1293
Auto attack : 628
Wildfire : 2519...


659 + 1509 + 1989 + 661 + 1345 + 606 + 1411 + 603 + 1310 + 1293 + 628 = 12014
12014*0.25 = 3003.5 dmg --> the difference is too big, I will remove the last AA and GCD.
12014 - 628 - 1293 = 10093
10093*0.25 = 2523.25 (which is close enough to the 2519 I had).

[Lastelli]

That's because of fey wind, so you won't be able to do that unless you have a sch in your party or an ast that gives you aoe arrow in your opener or you have an insane amount of sks. But since that last shot is a non heated split shot (with barrel penalty), it's not a big deal. Of course if your sch switches to eos at the pull after using fey wind (as he/she should do) you won't be able to fit that 6th gcd in the following wildfires.

[Fannah]

Yup, you're right, Fey Wind must be helpful. I don't know how it's calculated, but if I just do 2.48*0.97 = 2.4056, I'll try with 2.40 and 2.41 to give the results when I'll be back on the game (it still looks too much details for anyone not having a very good connection).