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    Oxix Lahun
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    Premium housing ward with paid houses that never expireee

    Paid FC houses. Paid small cottages.

    You pick the ward. You pick the plot. New wards available if needed for the plot.

    Paid for, yours, they never expire. Buy two. Buy a whole ward.

    Yes / No / 'b-b-but I like to run, 90k and buy from re-sellers' ?



    More ideas:
    - Optional 'premium moving'. (Move upgrade / downgrade to another plot or ward, additional fees may apply.)
    - Optional 'exclusive premium only ward-types'. (Look and feels, such premium.)


    The last 'gil' ward release was so bad; mass outcry on the forums about the mass partyfinder house re-selling, re-sellers ending up in jail (even live on stream), official posts and all that jazz, it was terrible. Still, nothing seems changed. And a new 'gil' release is nigh. Oh my.

    People owning / selling a vast percentage of these scarce resources is no secret on larger servers. And it is bad sport to really blame thém, even though it is wrong there were no proper restrictions in place to begin with. Which frankly, is underwhelmingly strange and pretty weird indeed. We heard the excuses last round. We don't need them again if nothing changed. Add a premium ward.
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    Last edited by eschaton; 08-10-2017 at 09:09 PM. Reason: more, more ideaaas

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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    I can't back this I'm afraid. Yes, fixes need to be made, but this isn't the fix that is required. Limit it to 1 house per account (apply it retroactively too, perhaps giving 100% refunds and all items including "Destroy on pick up" items on all characters that have a house on a service account if they have more than one), and make wards auto-generate. For the extra server space that would cost, it would be more than made up by the extra incoming generated for subscriptions. For FCs, perhaps look into one per account (you join one on your main, all alts are in that FC too, but don't count towards the member limit, as the name that appears on the FC list will be based on the last character you logged in as).

    But as it stands, your idea could lead to a slippery slope. Plus, if they DID go on mog station, because of the extra data required in an ongoing manner, it would be charged monthly. Given we're already renting inventory space, etc, I don't see this as a good idea.

    EDIT: I've noticed two more ideas have been added. I will give me thoughts on each.

    Premium moving: Not needed. With how the moving system works (it moves all your furniture into storage, but things like airships and workshop progress remain intact) this should be offered free as well. No need to charge additional for this when the way they're coding it would allow this to happen anyways with no extra hassle. This would just be an excuse to nickle and dime us for no reason.

    Premium ward types: On the fence with this one. It's a sub MMO. But it has a cash shop. If by ward types, you mean premium housing items (such as house designs) around a certain theme (let's say Angel themed), that are applied to already existing houses, then I can accept this, as it's not overly different to housing items going on the mog station from previous events. Not ideal, but not exactly unprecedented.
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    Last edited by Paladinleeds; 08-10-2017 at 08:57 PM.
    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    No, stop throwing your money in hope of a fix.
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    Anything added to the cash shop is an automatic 'no' for me.
    This would pretty much kill any faith I have left in SE.
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    Why are people always so quick to offer SE more money to fix a fundamental design problem? We already pay a monthly sub, I think that's more than enough reason to hope they'll fix an issue with their own philosophy without trying to get us to pay for it.
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    Methos Ranperre
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    Your ward idea would cripple the servers simply based on their design and the resources used, something money will not remedy. I say this as you do not even acknowledge the current issues in place that are the heart of the problem.
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    I had floated the idea of premium housing - as in different from the wards that you could still buy with gil -- things like a coerthan cabin or a yurt on the azim steppe. Purchasable from the Mog station similar to how ESO does their housing system. It's yours and tied to your character always (no demolition). This way we'd be contributing more to these server issues that still seem to plague the housing part of the game. HOWEVER, I get that it's really not our fault and we shouldn't pay for development "mistakes".

    I have a feeling that no matter what SE does with the new housing release, it's going to be a real show on the forums.
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    Are we going F2P? If not then no.

    Even in a world of 'f2p premium housing' I'd expect the system to change. Selling limited plots that last forever is stupid, you'd end up with loads of dead wards as people come and go over the games lifetime.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 08-10-2017 at 10:29 PM.

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    Kanzaki Furia
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    issue I had with FF11 when I decided to pull my sub after spending thousands on that game is it's way to time consuming.

    i will pull my sub when FF14 becomes too greedy with cash shop which is borderline atm.
    - added more emotes to cash shop than ingame in the past few months.
    - added past seasonal events to cash shop rather than letting player who DID pay for sub to obtain them. (they could have kept it in the game while adding them to cash shop so impatient players can buy them instead of waiting for seasonal event to come.)

    if they put up "Premium housing" when they can't serve the needs of current subscription players... I will delete my character and walk away.
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    Inventory UI improvement
    Real "Repair All" function
    more Teleport favored destinations
    Mount Roulette Filter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I had floated the idea of premium housing - as in different from the wards that you could still buy with gil -- things like a coerthan cabin or a yurt on the azim steppe. Purchasable from the Mog station similar to how ESO does their housing system. It's yours and tied to your character always (no demolition).
    The problem wih the idea is the Mog Station.
    Make it a relict like quest, with ex primal fights, million gil crafted keyitems and months long grind of every thinkable content to make it premium, not Mog station.
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