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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    Back to the patch notes, I hope that the "unmarked keystones" have a decent drop rate since we need 10 of them.

    Does moogle have a 15 minute timer after win like Ifrit? To be honest with the stupid re-keying process I never bothered to check before.
    yep. and part of the reason moogle felt like such a grind was every time you won you spent the next 20 minutes killing NMs to get keystones so you could reenter again. every single time. with ifrit, you could at least farm a bunch of inferno tapers solo or in SB groups until you had a nice reserve built up, which gave you the opportunity to take breaks between kills, since you didn't have to keep farming each and every time you won.

    so at least at surface value this is a very welcome change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    You can use subtarget with the Fkeys. It just gives you a seperate target. It is an added feature for people who want to do more during combat, I don't see why it is such a problem. If you don't like it you can macro your spells with <t> to get around it.


    Back to the patch notes, I hope that the "unmarked keystones" have a decent drop rate since we need 10 of them.

    Does moogle have a 15 minute timer after win like Ifrit? To be honest with the stupid re-keying process I never bothered to check before.
    Yes it does. Some of the NMs were much easier to deal with (Queen Gougou), while others were more annoying (Buata) so I can see the trend shifting to the party going to kill Gougou and taking care of all the vultures, spriggans and whatnot on the way there and in the vicinity for keystone drops. Can also farm these keystones outside of the quest like tapers, so overall a very nice improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    You can use subtarget with the Fkeys. It just gives you a seperate target. It is an added feature for people who want to do more during combat, I don't see why it is such a problem. If you don't like it you can macro your spells with <t> to get around it.


    Back to the patch notes, I hope that the "unmarked keystones" have a decent drop rate since we need 10 of them.

    Does moogle have a 15 minute timer after win like Ifrit? To be honest with the stupid re-keying process I never bothered to check before.
    if your gonna use the Fkeys then why not Fkey your target and hit the button? then if you want to go back to your first target, then Fkey back.
    as for Nuking, its not necessary at all especially since this game is almost exclussively single target mob killing. it literally just becomes extra button pushes for the sake of extra button pushes. its the definition of convoluted.
    if sub target is so fantastic then i wonder why there isnt anyone complaining that WSs dont use sub targets. after all, WSs is the exact equivalent to Nuking.
    its just extra button pushes and especially for nuking, nothing but a spell confirmation. well i dont need confirmations.
    oh and why not just macro them? because holding CTRL or ALT for every spell is just as annoying and spell confirmation on every spell. Macros are also extra button pushes.
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    Last edited by Dreadnought; 12-28-2011 at 07:58 AM.
    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowstriker View Post
    This.

    /rant on

    You guys are acting extremely childish and I'd hate to be a part of your linkshells if this is how you choose to represent them. For shame, seriously. Beating a fight "first" doesn't make you better than everyone else, it just means... well you did it first. If you/your LS found some super awesome strategy that now everyone uses, ok, that's pretty cool, but it's still awful, immature form to brag about it in the manner that is occurring in this thread.

    Grow up.

    /rant off
    In a game where items/gear aren't really THAT rare or hard to get then all you are left with to set yourself apart from everyone else is who does it first, who does it best, and who does it fastest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    In a game where items/gear aren't really THAT rare or hard to get then all you are left with to set yourself apart from everyone else is who does it first, who does it best, and who does it fastest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    In a game where items/gear aren't really THAT rare or hard to get then all you are left with to set yourself apart from everyone else is who does it first, who does it best, and who does it fastest.
    Why do you want to set yourself apart from everyone else? You must have a pretty sad life if you need to be better than everyone else in a videogame to be happy, just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    Why do you want to set yourself apart from everyone else? You must have a pretty sad life if you need to be better than everyone else in a videogame to be happy, just sayin'.
    I actually strive to be the best in everything I venture into. What's sad is that you're content settling with mediocrity. You're whats wrong with our country. Stop settling for average and try to be above average. Derp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilsAdvocate View Post
    In a game where items/gear aren't really THAT rare or hard to get then all you are left with to set yourself apart from everyone else is who does it first, who does it best, and who does it fastest.
    Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrose View Post
    Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.

    Im not sure where all this hate is coming from, but surely, even you would defend the integrity of your LS if they are accused? That was simply what DevilsAdvocate was doing. It was never intended to be a dick slinging contest of any kind, its just that someone implied that BG exploit, DA gave evidence that we do not, and then others jumped on the bandwagon of hating on BG. BG members treat each other like family, so if the Blue Garter name comes up into question, you better expect that one of us will come to defend it. That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrose View Post
    Grow up please and stop being so immature. It's just a game and let just enjoy it. I wouldn't want to be in your Linkshell even if you can kill every primal battle that is released. I play my game to have fun and meet people, not a freakin contest and who kill first or fastest. Just keep it to yourself because none of us here really care. Go around and getting defensive and thinking your LS is the very best just make you guy a bunch of immature and taking the game way too seriously. It remind me of people in Wow all over again which is why I quit that game a long time ago, Final Fantasy community doesn't need this kind of people.
    Welcome to every MMORPG to ever exist. Competition is healthy. Otherwise why even bother having PvP, or a Super Bowl, or the World Series. Why not just have an NPC that just gives away Relic weapons and best is slot gear? Everyone deserves it because everyone is equal right? Ha. Go back to whatever socialist world you came from or get used to the competition.
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