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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post490835

    Crossbreeding can happen but is just very rare.
    Welp... Time to change that lore! 2017! 2017! 2017!



    Okay seriously though I still can only take that with answer with a grain of salt since Miqo'te males were "rare". So "rare" that they couldn't even be seen by the players. Now Miqo'te men are everywhere. And there are a lot of NPCs around too. Even a good bunch in Kugane!

    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    We haven't had any conclusive evidence either way. Is what you are saying that they exist but they just aren't shown? Possibly.
    Yes Belhi that was where I was getting at.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 08-10-2017 at 07:38 PM.

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    Well, if any of the Ishgardian Hyur we saw could turn into dragons upon drinking dragons blood then that would be conclusive proof that Elezan and Hyur can produce fertile offspring.

    But that's the thing, do we see any Hyur Heretics turn into a lesser dragon? I don't know for sure. That would basically be instant proof of fertile crossbreeds since all the knights of King Thordan were indeed Elezan.

    Perhaps it would be a mistake on the developers part if one of the Heretics using a Hyur model turned into a lesser dragon. But in the absence of an assured answer, it would be as good a proof as any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Okay seriously though I still can only take that with answer with a grain of salt since Miqo'te males were "rare". So "rare" that they couldn't even be seen by the players.
    Pre-Calamity.

    I don't know if there's any official word on this, but it's a pretty logical conclusion that the increase in the presence of Miqo'te males is a result of the Calamity and the impact that has had on various societies.

    That being said, if you plan on dismissing so quickly answers provided by one the individuals that helps create the world's lore, you're certainly in for a fun time.
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    Player Magic-Mal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berethos View Post
    Pre-Calamity.

    I don't know if there's any official word on this, but it's a pretty logical conclusion that the increase in the presence of Miqo'te males is a result of the Calamity and the impact that has had on various societies.

    That being said, if you plan on dismissing so quickly answers provided by one the individuals that helps create the world's lore, you're certainly in for a fun time.
    I don't believe everything they say because on many occasions did they say for example, that something won't ever happen then all of a sudden it happens(Ex. No invisible shields would ever be added to the game because of obvious lore and animation reasons then nect patch it's released lol)

    A perfect example is the lore that was retconned for Nael Deus Darnus. All I'm saying is, things are always open to change. Just like how Au Ra decided they wanted to exist.
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    It comes down to how big the offspring. In the idea of horses for example you can breed shires (the second largest breed) with shetlands( the second smallest) with a shire farther and shetland mother though the danger comes the child birth to the mother.
    So races like Hyur elezen miqo'te and aura (seeing it seems to be puberty when male aura shoot up where females stay small) would have no problem cross breeding. Lala's I picture have to stick to lala partners for children as the female are not much bigger then a human child so a human sized baby would be a large problem for her. And carrying the child alone could be deadly. As for roes we have yet to see Roe children to get an idea of how big they are. If there like the Aura and seem to be similar to human size them spurt up at puberty it could be possible but looking at the hip span of female roes I picture the kids to be pretty big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post

    A perfect example is the lore that was retconned for Nael Deus Darnus. All I'm saying is, things are always open to change. Just like how Au Ra decided they wanted to exist.
    I thought Nael was less a retcon and more a translation error gone horribly wrong. Non-gendered pronouns in the JP version, male pronouns in EN, suddenly revealed to be a female under the mask. Oh crap, said the EN team.

    Thus the Eula switcheroo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I thought Nael was less a retcon and more a translation error gone horribly wrong. Non-gendered pronouns in the JP version, male pronouns in EN, suddenly revealed to be a female under the mask. Oh crap, said the EN team.

    Thus the Eula switcheroo.
    Magic-Mal I think is more referring to the fact that when ARR was first released there were calls to bring back Nael's final boss fight from 1.0 and SE basically said "no", only to then later do just that with Second Coil... sort of.

    They've stuck to their guns though as far as Gaius being dead and gone is concerned however, so I regard Nael's return in turn 9 as an exception rather than the rule.

    SE are fairly consistent and firm when it comes to keeping within their own lore, and mixed-racial characters being rare is one such example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
    Pretty sure crossbreeds can happen as easy as any normal baby happens. I don't recall reading or hearing anywhere that it's difficult for races to crossbreed. Only that for some cultures(like Ishgard) it's looked down upon. There's even a Hyur guy in a SB side quest who outright mentions how he wants to marry a Miqo'te girl and have children with her.
    Hum.....still wondering how lalaXroe would work ^^"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watachy View Post
    C'était en fait SE qui survolait Ishgard sur une liasse de billets

    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    People don't know how to take criticism anymore, and bad play is rewarded with with a coddling mentality. Yes, this is a casual game for the most part - that doesn't mean people need to walk on eggshells in fear of getting reported for pointing out things. This whole 'please don't say anything even slightly negative' mentality that we seem to be going towards and the devs seemingly pushing towards it is creating a disturbing trend.

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    There actually is an explanation regarding crossbreeding and harming the mother. It was talked about earlier in the thread, with mentioning how they usually take after the mother primarily. This is how, for example, a Lalafell could crossbreed with a Roegadyn. The baby would still be Lalafell sized, even if it would take on some Roegadyn characteristics. That being said, it's likely that there would be a decent chance of mechanical dysfunction regarding such a pairing, but that's another issue entirely. Despite their rarity, I would love for them to be available as player options at some point, since player characters have a larger justification to be 'special'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaesarCV View Post
    That being said, it's likely that there would be a decent chance of mechanical dysfunction regarding such a pairing, but that's another issue entirely.
    Psh.. Simple. Get a Roegadyn woman and a Lalafell jock. Put the Roe on her back, Lalafell latches on like a leech, and watch science happen.
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