Quick Season 5 tips

[SokiYagami]

Was considering joining season 5 feast for the weapon tokens. I did some feast before the pvp overhaul, but haven't run any since then. Any newbie-friendly job for recommendation? I highly doubt I'd ever climb to top 100, just like to try climbing the ranks for the tokens, any tip would be highly appreciated!

[kuma_aus]

Any newbie-friendly job for recommendation?

To be honest, basically all. With only like 9 buttons to worry about, none of the jobs are that super advance. But healers are very demanding so I would avoid them if you don't want the headache that comes with them. I would say find the job that you enjoy and stick with it. You'll slowly get used to the job and start doing better. For example, I love NIN and MNK but don't like DRG as much. After leveling both NIN and MNK from 50 > 60 in PvP, I started to get a lot more used to them and started to get kills much easier in Frontlines. And even those matches I did bad was fun since I was playing a job I enjoyed.

[SokiYagami]

To be honest, basically all. With only like 9 buttons to worry about, none of the jobs are that super advance. But healers are very demanding so I would avoid them if you don't want the headache that comes with them. I would say find the job that you enjoy and stick with it. You'll slowly get used to the job and start doing better. For example, I love NIN and MNK but don't like DRG as much. After leveling both NIN and MNK from 50 > 60 in PvP, I started to get a lot more used to them and started to get kills much easier in Frontlines. And even those matches I did bad was fun since I was playing a job I enjoyed.

Alright, maybe I'll start with SAM then. Thanks for the reply!

[Cynric]

Alright, maybe I'll start with SAM then. Thanks for the reply!

Can't say I'd recommend samurai, it seems to be the worst of the melee atm. After about 100 games I switched to Monk and had such an easier time, Midare is absolutely terrible the way things are right now, mix that with resource management and its a pain in the bum. As Samurai you really rely on the ranged to put a lot of forefront damage or backend / finishing the opponent off unless the healer is asleep. Your Gap closer also directly takes away from your ability to burst. Overall its meh..

[SokiYagami]

Can't say I'd recommend samurai, it seems to be the worst of the melee atm. After about 100 games I switched to Monk and had such an easier time, Midare is absolutely terrible the way things are right now, mix that with resource management and its a pain in the bum. As Samurai you really rely on the ranged to put a lot of forefront damage or backend / finishing the opponent off unless the healer is asleep. Your Gap closer also directly takes away from your ability to burst. Overall its meh..

Been hitting up the dummy at the den a little today, couldn't quite work out a decent burst rotation. Even a 3xshiten (reserved 25 gauge for Chiten/SE) + midare still feel... lackluster. Will take your advice and take a look at monk later, thanks! :3

P.S if any veteran SAM PVPer got tips to improve, please share! >_<

By the way, what are the takes of Increased Action Speed? I'm debating between that, Decreased Damage Taken and Increased Resistance Duration.

[Cynric]

Been hitting up the dummy at the den a little today, couldn't quite work out a decent burst rotation. Even a 3xshiten (reserved 25 gauge for Chiten/SE) + midare still feel... lackluster. Will take your advice and take a look at monk later, thanks! :3

P.S if any veteran SAM PVPer got tips to improve, please share! >_<

By the way, what are the takes of Increased Action Speed? I'm debating between that, Decreased Damage Taken and Increased Resistance Duration.

Even if you know the burst rotation it wont help but here you go.

Build 100 Kenki (Meikyou -> Higanbana offense box for 60kenki)

Build Yuki on target -> Higanbana

Gekko (Shinten) Kasha(Shinten) Yuki Shinten Midare Shinten

you can technically manually build your sen to prepare for burst using the combo starts to get a second midare in your burst but...

The issue is midare doesn't hit hard enough for its cast time, Monk and Dragoon have the same level of damage or more without a cast time. The cast time desyncs your burst and allows the healer to heal off the previous damage , where as Monk/dragoon/Ninja all do their bursts instantly once they start them.

Midare's cast and sound also act as a telegraph. My experience has always been gekko( shinten) > shifu (shinten) > midare (shinten) > Kasha might be decent but they'll be healed after the midare on any healer not being CC'd at the right time.

and honestly you'll still need the ranged to help otherwise you wont kill the target. Monk/Drg/Nin don't really need help from the ranged

[SokiYagami]

and honestly you'll still need the ranged to help otherwise you wont kill the target. Monk/Drg/Nin don't really need help from the ranged

Run a few rounds with monk today. I still find it kinda hard (as compared to DRG pre-SB PVP) to burst down a target by myself so long the other healer isn't bad or I have the Offense buff, don't even want to think how it's like for Samurai. Much rips. >_>