It is time to get a 3rd free Retainer

[Krotoan]

Because at least in this case, it honestly feels like you kinda don't have any useful information here. They have the space, we know the space is there, and not only is the demand for more space present, but even devs have claimed that more space is needed because of more items being put into the game just with the launch of 4.0 than players have additional storage space for.

how do you know the space is there? because the option to HAVE more retainers is there? It' doesn't necessarily follow and that's what I'm trying to say. Devs also gave us more storage and armory space which was , in their eyes, enough to deal with the new gear/items.

Thousands? More like dozens. Either way, still nowhere near enough income to match people paying for one-time items, especially when 1) you don't know how many people are buying items for other people, 2) there are consumable items purchased from the cash shop that may be brought more than once by some customers, and 3) you're not factoring in the costs of server transfers, which happen every single and give WAY more money every month than they get from saps paying for extra retainers.

if you think there are only dozens of people playing this game, or are even just going to claim that. I'm done trying to talk to you. Even if you're just using hyperbole, that's just being as contrary as possible for it's own sake. Yes , there are consumables and server transfers. Transfers are being given away for free at the moment for many people. I still think you're underestimating the value of consistent and potential subscriber and recurring payments VS one time item/boost money.

Frozen assets aren't as damaging as customers leaving because you can't keep up stock. Plus we know that prior to the release of Heavensward (two years ago now), the income from the cash shop was used to get the EU datacenter, so we are plenty aware of what money can be gained from that cash shop.

I wasn't aware that the data centers were purchased solely on money made from cash shop purchases. If this is true then there is far more money than I'd foresee coming out of that (point conceded if that's a real number). Frozen assets can kill or make a business if managed correctly by themselves, and as I've mentioned it's very likely once the funded demand is there, the space and bandwidth would be purchased.

I've dealt with networks too and I understand what you're trying to explain, but I don't think you're considering that the load space is already there AND they have already gauged the need for more inventory space. It's also why I would rather see the third retainer as free than increasing armory and inventory space even further, which would put WAY more stress on the servers. This is not adding an extra retainer (the maximum retainer limit is fine right where it is). This is simply making the third retainer cost nothing. Barely any profit lost, and it could most likely be made up with the number of people who'd come back after quitting because of this issue and even surpassed by players having more money to spend on more cash shop items for example.

How do we know the loadspace is already there? Are you basing this off the fact the retainer spaces are available for purchase still? They have constantly said they are currently still guaging the need for space VS capacity and haven't seen enough of a need to make it a priority. I never mentioned making another retainer space past the 6. I don't know where this more money is coming from either. People who stopped paying for a retainer since it's free will be unlikely to go ahead and burn that money on one time purchases that they weren't going to make anyway (speaking as someone who already pays for 2, I would buy things in the cash shop anyway free retainer or not and having another free retainer would probably just make me dial down my sub).

No, I'm putting decency ahead of supply and demand. We shouldn't have to be kicking and screaming about it on the forums when devs are fully aware that this is a problem.

They aren't though.They at least don't think it's a major one. I'm also sorry to say you are a vocal minority. Most of the playerbase does not post here. Heck I don't really unless I'm bored at work and need something to do. And I'd also suggest that posting civilly vs "kicking and screaming" (though to be honest you personally have only been short with me) will make it more likely for someone from the company to read it and relay it.

Or we can keep talking about it on these forums, which SURPRISE, people at Square-Enix actually read! The more it's brought up here, the more likely devs might take notice of it.

Conceded, it helps. Not as much weight as suddenly missing money from their bottom line, but it is an avenue of contact. But once again, acting like I am too dumb to realize this is making me want to just ignore you bit by bit. I'm not a child, nor stupid and would appreciate a mutual level of respect.

Re-read your posts while pretending like you didn't write them.



Yes, a basic level of storage, and no other game do you have to constantly pay more real-life money to have adequate storage space. Actually in most major MMORPGs, you don't have to pay real-life money for adequate storage space at all. Maybe a couple of them offering one-time fees for extra permanent storage space, but you don't have to increase your subscription fee just to have a necessary amount of storage space.

Rereading right now, but so far all I've seen is presenting information that might not have been considered while adding my own perspective to a discussion. I understand other MMO's do different things. I understand you'd like this one to do it similarly. They are under no moral or business reason to do so at the moment. Morals very rarely influence a large company, most of the time you'll see legality disguised as morals changing companies behaviors. Give them a legal or business reason to change their practices and they will change, this is what I suggest.
In the end I support the OP's original request, but I don't think the people on this forums are appealing to the right things to get it changed. You aren't going to make SE feel guilty or sorry, but you can show them it's in their best interest to make the change you desire in a reasonable and measured manner. Call me a white knight fanboy if you like, but I am only trying to help and inform.