I think SE needs to implement a style system

[Naunet]

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Literally all of the things you've marked as "difficult" are features other MMO devs have had as parts of their game for years now. They need to step up and be on the same level as their competition.

[LineageRazor]

Literally all of the things you've marked as "difficult" are features other MMO devs have had as parts of their game for years now. They need to step up and be on the same level as their competition.

I would guess that those features were built into the other MMOs' glamour systems from the get-go. If SE had had the foresight to add them from the start, then there wouldn't be an issue. Changing things NOW is where the difficulty comes in. Whether it's worth the investment depends on how many customers they think they will lose by not adding them. (The answer is: probably not many.)

[Naunet]

I would guess that those features were built into the other MMOs' glamour systems from the get-go.

They weren't, actually. They just adapted to player demands and shifts in what their competitors were doing.

[Celef]

They weren't, actually. They just adapted to player demands and shifts in what their competitors were doing.

Exactly, take Rift system for example, it happens years after the release, when the game went F2P

[Dark-Saviour]

Adding multiple Dye channels and the ability to dye any piece of gear really depends on how they've laid out the existing system. If it were done well (which I'd HOPE it was since they implemented dyeing in the first place, but I doubt it was considering everything else about this game's development), then it should be a matter of design discussion. The technical changes should ideally be fairly minor, and it would come down to the art department to decide which channels they want to specify for each piece of gear and then taking the time needed to mask or map those.

Un-gendering gear sets would be a nightmare though as trying to adjust the current models would be difficult and require a load of QA where it is even possible. Otherwise entirely new models would have to be added, so yeah, I don't see this one happening.

The log needs to happen though, difficult or not. It would likely involve breaking the item and its skin into separate components, a la GW2. In this way, you would unlock a skin rather than an item, and if multiple items share the same appearance, they would point at the same skin. This could also help to get away from the dyeable and non-dyeable gearset duplication, but they've baked that into crafting at this point, so there would be some cleanup needed there.

[KatenKyokotsu]

Yall need to stop hoping. It won't happen anyways. That's SE for you.

[LineageRazor]

Hmm. I was skeptical of any changes being made anytime soon, but from the recent Live Letter...

Yoshida: However, we are planning to make big adjustment/changes to glamour, and considering features such as recalling the appearance from equipment you previously owned.

Perhaps there is hope, after all. Then again, this is Yoshida saying it, and his mouth has been known to write checks that his dev team can't cash...

[AlexanderThorolund]

Why do we have daily threads suggesting stuff that's never going to be changed. We might as well just have a wish list thread.

[Lukha]

Why do we have daily threads suggesting stuff that's never going to be changed. We might as well just have a wish list thread.

Because the squeaky wheel gets the oil. If people keep asking, eventually SE will notice and bump it up the (long) list of things that need fixing.

[JisKing98]

Here SE, if you are looking a way to improve your system take a look at Rift's wardrobe, the best system I've ever seen in my entire life of as a gamer.
http://riftwardrobe.wikia.com/wiki/Wardrobe

Id rather not have THIS versionof a glam log but rather WoW's version. If we was to have wows version, it would show us all the available glam options as well as where to get them. This could be used as a way for ppl to do older content.