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    Eliniell's Avatar
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    Ehri'a Zhwari
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70

    Bard DoTs - Do they DH?

    As the title saysm, it doesn't seem my DoTs are Direct Hitting and it's made me question whether I should be prioritizing DH or Det as my secondary stat after Crit. Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    DoTs do direct hit, yes.
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    Do DoTs snapshot your crit and buffs or change with your current status?
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    Danielle Osmond
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliniell View Post
    As the title saysm, it doesn't seem my DoTs are Direct Hitting and it's made me question whether I should be prioritizing DH or Det as my secondary stat after Crit. Any thoughts on this would be welcomed.
    It doesn't really tell you much, it just........you kind of tell by the numbers it pushed. Well it would be nice if it does the same as the procs when you do a WS/Spell/ability that it lets you know you are doing a DH by a obvious big number or a "!" from a crit. .........you know what, I wonder why that never asked to be in a QoL patch?
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    Attica Jurlon
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    Adamantoise
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    Bard Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by HappyHubris View Post
    Do DoTs snapshot your crit and buffs or change with your current status?
    DoTs snapshot when you apply them.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmond View Post
    It doesn't really tell you much, it just........you kind of tell by the numbers it pushed. Well it would be nice if it does the same as the procs when you do a WS/Spell/ability that it lets you know you are doing a DH by a obvious big number or a "!" from a crit. .........you know what, I wonder why that never asked to be in a QoL patch?
    Probably because the DoT damage is displayed as the sum of all your DoT hits.

    With 2 DoTs a tick can consist of
    1) normal+normal
    2) crit+normal
    3) dhit+normal
    4) dhcrit+normal
    5) crit+crit
    6) dhcrit+crit
    7) dhcrit+dhcrit

    etc...
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 08-07-2017 at 08:46 PM.

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    Synthara Nytheria
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    I've never seen a dot tick being Direct Hit, only the initial damage if the skill has one.
    Tested it with aero, salted earth, bio and miasma
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    Kanzer Vardel
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    It seems to me people only assume it direct hits, for whatever reason. I haven't actually seen any evidence of it myself. I'd wager that dots DON'T direct hit, and is one of the reasons some classes are finding stacking dhit actually ISN'T optimal.
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    Myon Miya
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    Viper Lv 100
    Dots can direct hit, as well as critical direct hit. This is simple to test by just DoTing a dummy and looking at the numbers that appear (just use one dot to reduce variance).

    Eventually you will get a feel for what the baseline normal hit tick is, give or take the 5 (or was it 10%) natural damage variance. You will see values that go beyond these corresponding to the 1.25x direct hit multiplier, 1.40x (or higher) critical hit multiplier, and a few monster ticks with a 1.75x or higher multiplier corresponding to critical direct hits.
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    So why does the parser always show 0% dh on dots?
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