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    WoefulWolf's Avatar
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    Joni Seraphiel
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 70

    Dragoon 4.06 changes...

    • Heavy Thrust Potency increased from 100 to 140.
    • Chaos Thrust Combo potency increased from 220 to 230.Potency when executed from a target's rear reduced from 150 to 140.
    • Fang and Claw Potency increased from 200 to 250.
    • Wheeling Thrust Potency increased from 200 to 250

    Entire post is being edited. I misread the patch notes when it came out and neglected to reply to comments on this thread after page 2. Yeah this is quite nice when you occassionally miss positionals, but I did want something better for people who hit all of their positionals, though i acknowledge it isnt always possible, true north helps with that.


    Anyways, I'm hoping for something in the 4.1 patch that will change the eyes mechanic a bit. Lowering the amount of eyes to 3, and giving dragonfire dive dive ready would be pretty nice. and maybe making LotD a little bit better than it is. I still think dragoons could use a buff since they're lower than ninjas who bring more utility. I'd like to see them a little bit closer to monk and many players I have seen would agree that LotD and the eyes are a little bit eeh.'
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    Last edited by WoefulWolf; 08-11-2017 at 05:12 AM.

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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    This changes effects only uncomboed and out of position potencies.
    You now hit harder while missing your positionals with the combo.
    You hit for less while just using it without combos.
    You hit for the same like before while comboed and get the positionals.

    In overall as long as you get every positional you wont see a difference.
    But in encounters where you get forced out of the positionals for a third of the fight or so you should see a DPS gain. Just like 2% but a gain is a gain.
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    Last edited by Legion88; 08-08-2017 at 09:43 PM.

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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    These changes only raise the skill floor for the most part, with a softer DPS loss when you can't hit positionals.

    I'm baffled that you still lose LotD and all your eyes if you misclick BotD during LotD.
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    Vincent Mateus
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    Well, not picking Dragoon up still. Lame changes
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    Khel Pyke
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    They seem highly resistant to changing the eye mechanic, I don't know why. DRG need a small DPS bump. Keeping the eyes from degrading would add more life cycles and give that bump.
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    The only time this would be a dps loss is if you went full tard and tried to Chaos Thrust without combo. Otherwise dragoons got a SUBSTANTIAL dps increase IMO
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    Fjrwn Ymir
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabian View Post
    The only time this would be a dps loss is if you went full tard and tried to Chaos Thrust without combo. Otherwise dragoons got a SUBSTANTIAL dps increase IMO
    I actually ran Stone Vigil HM last year with a dragoon who did nothing but spam Chaos Thrust over and over... Great, now people like him have even less reason to learn their job. ._.
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    Eyvhokan Poseidal
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    Shiva
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    Miner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Haprimac View Post
    I actually ran Stone Vigil HM last year with a dragoon who did nothing but spam Chaos Thrust over and over... Great, now people like him have even less reason to learn their job. ._.
    Must be a FF9 fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haprimac View Post
    I actually ran Stone Vigil HM last year with a dragoon who did nothing but spam Chaos Thrust over and over... Great, now people like him have even less reason to learn their job. ._.
    I think that has been a troll move for awhile now, have heard of people doing this in the past.
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    Nora Origo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khel View Post
    I think that has been a troll move for awhile now, have heard of people doing this in the past.
    To be fair, it makes a really cool noise.
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