Can smn be reworked into what Demonolgy Locks are?

[JisKing98]

Ok so before ya start foaming in the mouth with rage and hatred, hear me out.
If summoners are suppose to be this job were they summon these big primals into battle to wreck some stuff, then why cant we do so?So instead i thought what if we made the summons themselves into the dps/rotation akin to demon locks from WoW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzScZU8Mdrs

This vid basically sums up what i would hope smn could look like. The idea is basically Smn instead of casting DoT's and then spamming ruin and such why don't they instead summon carbuncles to run in and do dmg and then summon a demi ilfrit to to some dps and so on and so forth until you finish the rotation with demi-bahument.
The potential for the mini summons are a lot if we look at all the monsters and critters we could use. You can summon coerls to run in and attack

*Flame shield activate!*

[Ayer2015]

I don't care for the idea of having multiple summoned primal up at once. Honestly, I would prefer if SMN wasn't even a pet class.

[Venur]

I don't care for the idea of having multiple summoned primal up at once. Honestly, I would prefer if SMN wasn't even a pet class.

Well SE needed a pet class and in the FF universe, summoners are pretty much the closes thing I'D say.

They could stole something from everquest I'D say. Mage and Necromancer are the pet class having 1 pet out at a time (can be tank, DPS etc) but on top of that 1 pet they also have @summons@, pet that can be summoned an will last a couple of second dealing big damage b4 disapearing.

It would kinda feel like a real summoner from the FF franchise , a caster who call help that won't last.

[dinnertime]

There's no chance they would remake SMN from what it is. The only time we've seen jobs get changed that much is when they remade the game for 2.0.

[KageTokage]

A pet-focused class wouldn't work unless they resolved a lot of existing issues with pets, such as several AoEs arbitrarily bypassing their innate AoE damage reduction and the pet AI in general being kind of bad.

[NolLacnala]

A pet-focused class wouldn't work unless they resolved a lot of existing issues with pets, such as several AoEs arbitrarily bypassing their innate AoE damage reduction and the pet AI in general being kind of bad.

But walking into a new boss fight was like having a minigame built into it, the "Which AoE gibs boogerbird" minigame

[JisKing98]

I don't care for the idea of having multiple summoned primal up at once. Honestly, I would prefer if SMN wasn't even a pet class.

So what would you even have summoner as? the name implies that they summon so why shouldn't they bring out summons to deal dmg?

[Verlyn]

A pet-focused class wouldn't work unless they resolved a lot of existing issues with pets, such as several AoEs arbitrarily bypassing their innate AoE damage reduction and the pet AI in general being kind of bad.

If they just did what they do in the video (stand there and attack), they wouldn't need AI. You don't micromanage your pets with modern demo locks. Instead, it's about building and maintaining a swarm.
I don't know how legion addresses pet survivability, if it does at all.

[Nezia]

So what would you even have summoner as? the name implies that they summon so why shouldn't they bring out summons to deal dmg?

They could do what they do in all final fantasy games? Summon an actual primal(not egi versions) that show up do something remarkable and then go away.

[Verlyn]

If pets were temporary and you were encouraged to maintain a rotation of them, it would resolve these issues neatly. A 20 second Garuda has no need for positioning or survivability. She is much like a summon in the old FFs, especially if she makes a burst attack when she expires.

Summoner gameplay could revolve around rotating pets until you build enough to bring out a Bahamut out for that one big Akh Morne boom.