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  1. #1
    Player Steel_Arrow's Avatar
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    Numerous errors at character creation birth date selection, present in every month

    Let's try this again.
    1. I am aware that the Eorzean calendar has 32 days.
    2. The first bug begins on day 29 of the first month.
    3. The umbral months all have identical copy-pasted data entry errors beginning on the eighth day.
    4. If the person curating the bug forums would actually look at the screenshots and the days on which the errors begin, you will find that these are - without question - data entry errors.
    5. This is most certainly a bug report.

    There are numerous data entry errors in the character creation birth dates for every month, leading to uncertainty about which date is actually being selected, and making certain dates impossible to select.

    Every date after an error is offset, and some months contain multiple errors, causing discrepancies of several days to accumulate.

    Date & Time: Aug 5, 2017
    Frequency: Always
    World name: Character Creation
    PC Client - But possibly others as well

    Steps:
    1. Begin Character Creation
    2. Attempt to select a date after any of the data entry errors

    First Astral Moon error begins on day 29
    First Umbral Moon error begins on day 8, is three days off by day 24
    Second Astral Moon error begins on day 29
    Second Umbral Moon error begins on day 8, is two days off by day 30
    Third Astral Moon error begins on day 30
    Third Umbral Moon error begins on day 8, is two days off by day 30
    Fourth Astral Moon error begins on day 29
    Fourth Umbral Moon error begins on day 29
    Fifth Astral Moon error begins on day 8, and is two days off by day 30
    Fifth Umbral Moon error begins on day 29
    Sixth Astral Moon error begins on day 8, and is two days off by day 30
    Sixth Umbral Moon error begins on day 29

    First Astral Moon (Month 1)

    First Umbral Moon (Month 2)


    Second Astral Moon (Month 3)

    Second Umbral Moon (Month 4)


    Third Astral Moon (Month 5)

    Third Umbral Moon (Month 6)


    Fourth Astral Moon (Month 7)

    Fourth Umbral Moon (Month 8)

    Fifth Astral Moon (Month 9)


    Fifth Umbral Moon (Month 10)

    Sixth Astral Moon (Month 11)


    Sixth Umbral Moon (Month 12)
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    Because the Eorzean year is longer, some dates on the Eorzean calendar will match with Earth dates twice, so that by the end, December 31 (the end of the Earth year) lines up with the 32nd Sun of the Sixth Umbral Moon (the end of the Eorzean year).

    If they were "data entry errors," then most of the month of the Sixth Umbral Moon would effectively be January again, and that would throw off the calendar entirely.

    To reiterate, some Earth dates are stretched over multiple Eorzean dates in order to stretch the Earth year into 384 days. There's no error.

    Edit, additional: In case maybe there's some confusion here, the dates in parentheses are not the dates selected. The dates in parentheses are the equivalent Earth dates for the selected Eorzean date. Perhaps there is some confusion where you are reading the dates in parentheses as the "translated" Eorzean dates, but Eorzea does not use the (month/day) format.
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    Last edited by Hasrat; 08-08-2017 at 04:37 PM.

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    This is the second time I've posted this bug, and this is the second time someone has posted that without taking the time to read.

    Since you probably didn't even read what the error was to begin with, let me spell it out with an example:
    If you select Month 1, day 28, it says it is 1/28. If you select Month 1, day 29, it also says it is 1/28.

    Now, what I am about to say is in the body of the original post - but by all means, allow me to repeat myself just for you.

    Even with your explanation (which I said I was aware of in my post that you didn't read), it just doesn't add up correctly.
    If what you were saying was correct, the error would not begin on day 29 of month 1. That's the opposite of what you would see if these were "translated dates".
    If what you were saying was correct, day 32 of month 1 would be 2/1, instead, day 32 is 1/31.
    If what you were saying was correct, each month would not begin again with day 1. The dates would be continuous, but they're not.
    If what you were saying was correct, it would not occur three times in the middle of each umbral month.

    It's not even math, it's simple counting. Anyone with a first-grade education should be able to see that there's no possible way that they were going for an "earth calendar equivalent".

    Yes, they have their own fancy date system, but people posting trite observations about that without taking the time to understand the nature of the actual bug are the reason this has gone uncorrected since launch.

    Count it out yourself.
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    Last edited by Steel_Arrow; 08-09-2017 at 05:25 AM.

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    The Third Astral Moon is the only outlier with the double day being the 29th. All other months that are the equivalent of a 31-day real month have the 28th be the double day. All 30-day months have the double days on the 7th and 28th. February has the double days on the 7th, 14th and 21st.
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    Maybe... you haven't been exactly clear about what you're reporting, then?

    "Count it out yourself."

    Count what out? I can click through every single month, and find every single Earth day represented (including 2/29). What dates are impossible for you to select? How is it at all uncertain which date is being selected?

    To clarify, what I am interpreting your report to be, is that, for example, the 8th Sun of the First Umbral Moon should be the equivalent of February 8th, but according to your perceived error, some miscount, it is represented as February 7th, thus causing all future dates of that month to not "line up" (Feb. 10 would fall on the 9th Sun, etc, futher exacerbated as more "errors" accumulate).

    And what we've tried explaining, is that, there are more Eorzean dates than Earth dates, so some Earth dates will be represented twice. February 7 is represented by both the 7th Sun of the First Umbral Moon, and the 8th Sun of the First Umbral Moon. Unless somehow we're not understanding the crux of your finding, nobody else sees the dates as inaccurate or otherwise in error.
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    As Hasrat has stated, this is actually intentional - players back in the Beta test mentioned this and SE responded it's working as intended, which means as bizarre as the Eorzean calendar seems to be, it's how it's meant to be. The fact is if you're hoping to have a 1-1 exact match for Eorzean day with a specific real-world Gregorian calendar day (such as your real life birthday) it's not really possible. So definitely working as intended I'm afraid.
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