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    I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.
    I highly doubt that. MCH dps is very solid right now, maybe a few % points higher than BRD but we'll have to wait a few days to be sure of that. However it's still fairly lower than pure dps jobs like blm and sam. As long as they don't buff Hypercharge, a double ranged meta will probably not happen again in the future. Double ranged was meta in 3.4 because rook hypercharge was only useful to physical jobs (and was a 10% buff) and mnk's dps was lower than a brd/mch's in most encounters (and disembowel debuff was too useful to ranged dps). Also, we had a % difference around 10% between the highest and lowest dps job in 3.4. Now this difference is around 15% so it's not so obvious whether raid utility>personal dps right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunako View Post
    I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.
    God, I hope not.
    Hate pure-physical metas...
    If that's true, then RDM might be out of a job too :/
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    MCH is amazing ! The rotation make sense now, cooldowns are aligned nicely, and I can outdps my bard, not by a huge margin, but there's less rng involved so... I'm sure MCH dps is superior to BRD dps on average.
    Dismantle is really good now, it's close to bard's utility, I love it !

    I can understand why people prefered the 4.0 MCH, but I like this one better personally, so it's up to the player I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HopeEstheim View Post
    MCH is amazing ! The rotation make sense now, cooldowns are aligned nicely,
    Dismantle is really good now, it's close to bard's utility, I love it !
    Actually Cooldowns have lined up very well on mch for awhile now, giving us more overheat dmg didn't change that.
    Dismantle is good? what changed, they lowered its cooldown...that...is...all As its been said many times tanks already take reprisal for raids so what makes this skill great?
    Close to bards Utility, Sure only if you ignore Battle Voice, The Warden's Paean, Troubadour, Nature's Minne, Foe Requiem, and the crit buff they give for there songs.
    Just to be clear as well MCH utility Dismantle, Hypercharge...

    MCH just doesn't have the same level of flexibility that bard has which is fine imo, but that being said mch needs more dps to make up for its lack of support. This is very difficult to do without touching bard, because of bards rng it can out dps a MCH.
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    Last edited by Xygoz; 08-10-2017 at 04:10 AM.