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Thread: MCH buffs!

  1. #21
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    Livi Fi
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    I like most of the changes except the Hot Shot. Now our rotation is even more on loop from the start. I really miss mixing in Cooldown/Hotshot between procs when your QR is like 1-2 secs from coming off cooldown. Now there's even less mixing and even more 1-2-3. Pretty boring if you ask me.

    Wishlist for 4.1: Either revert to 10 heat per heated shot or if they wanna keep it easy then at least make cooldown reduce less heat so we can use it more. I don't wanna be pressing 1-2-3 all the time gimme something to mix in!
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    Tem Westwind
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    I was really hoping they'd go the opposite direction and kill overheat as a mechanic to focus on heat management instead, but c'est la vie. I miss the OGCD moves, too. MCH feels very locked to the GCD now, until the Wildfire window comes up, then it's overwhelmed trying to push all the OGCD cooldowns through in that short timeframe. Feels bad to me.
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Quote Originally Posted by photometrik View Post
    But instead the went the route of making the existing mechanics obsolete without even bothering to get rid of them entirely. [...] except now we're going to make it so you never want to use those abilities the way you're supposed to." I can't help but say...huh?
    No, Cooldown is here to temporize in order to use your wildfire/overheat rotation at the right time, so it still has its use. Unlike what you seem to think, Cooldown manages heat, believe it or not, it does --> You don't want to stop attacking because it would start your overheat just when a boss is about to become invincible/untargetable, or that a dps check is about to come. Cooldown temporizes --> Cooldown fills its purpose. And it also has this fun powerful side of spamming it under Overheat (the weapon overheat, you cooldown a lot to make it ok, in a way, it looks it's ok RP wise).

    To talk about the Hot Shot, it makes you have +40 minimum potency by using Split Shot instead of Hot shot, and if it procs, it's even better, so it can end to be a nice potency buff as Hot Shot direct potency is too weak.

    The Gauss Barrel 2 sec CD is great for lower levels (so also in daily roulettes) who would like to manage heat a bit while they don't have Barrel Stabilizer and/or Cooldown. Even just the feeling of putting it on or off the way you want is nice, especially when you want to just train on a dummy and restart at 0 heat.
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    Last edited by Fannah; 08-08-2017 at 05:07 PM.

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    M'rin Vhani
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    Still no new support skills, leaving MCH out of any consideration if you want a ranged support. Granted it should do better than before DPS wise.

    I actually didn't mind the 4.0 heat that much. Just needed some number tweaking and fix to the Turret Kamikaze and Flamethrower to be atleast enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post

    The Gauss Barrel 2 sec CD is great for lower levels (so also in daily roulettes) who would like to manage heat a bit while they don't have Barrel Stabilizer and/or Cooldown.
    You do know that heat "Management" sub level 64 means nothing right... there is no reason to ever take the barrel off...

    As for the changes Hot shot is a QoL change, 20% overheats sounds good only time will tell if it helps in the long run. The others changes MEH

    It does seem they have no intention of buffing the potency of skills for MCH at this point who knows what they are thinking of changing next.
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  6. #26
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Lol Xygoz, I know and I said the same in another topic, but you are not here enough to be aware of it, there was a recent topic were people complained that they still wanted to manage heat before 62/64 still to always have their 5% bonus and not overheating. Here is the link, so you can know I know http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...a-single-skill

    Now, if you read what I wrote, you could have noticed I also said : "Even just the feeling of putting it on or off the way you want is nice, especially when you want to just train on a dummy and restart at 0 heat."
    So it will be nice for that part of the game, as training is important too and there was no good reason to set the Gauss Barrel at 10sec CD.
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    Last edited by Fannah; 08-08-2017 at 07:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fannah View Post
    Lol Xygoz, I know and I said the same in another topic, but you are not here enough to be aware of it, there was a recent topic were people complained that they still wanted to manage heat before 62/64 still to always have their 5% bonus and not overheating. Here is the link, so you can know I know http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...a-single-skill

    Now, if you read what I wrote, you could have noticed I also said : "Even just the feeling of putting it on or off the way you want is nice, especially when you want to just train on a dummy and restart at 0 heat."
    I'm not going to go look at your past posts to understand why you said something in another topic...

    "Even just the feeling of putting it on or off the way you want is nice" I don't even know what this means
    "especially when you want to just train on a dummy and restart at 0 heat" I guess waiting 8 more seconds was to long.

    But whatever I don't really care tbh
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    Heimdal Gjallarhorn
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    Bards still way better.

    This is a joke.
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  9. #29
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    Fannah Loydera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xygoz View Post
    I guess waiting 8 more seconds was to long.
    Not especially too long. I just said it's nice, don't exagerate what I said. It's not something that matters at normal and high content, but it's nicer for training.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    So let me get this straight, every 1 minute i must:
    -Reload
    -Rapid Fire
    -(Hypercharge every 3rd minute)
    -Wildfire
    -{Overheat}
    -Ricochet

    Basically, 5 cooldowns used simeltaneously, 6 if you include Overheat as a cooldown. Which, thanks to Barrel Stabilizer, is quite literally a 1 minute CD 20% damage up buff.

    And we have to do this every god damn minute.
    Ensuring that Wildfire's CD never unsyncs from any of those other cooldowns for the entire duration of a 10+ minute fight.
    Failure to do so results in our Wildfire damage being cut by as much as 60%.

    Yeah, sorry Square but no. For the love of all that is unholy, Fix our total reliance on using 6 cooldowns at once.
    I absolutely love the basic rotation and heat management (liked it more when Heated Shots were 10 heat though), But needing to use 5 buttons to make the 6th button do acceptable damage, In addition to hoping to hell you get some Direct Crits in there is just plain wrong.
    Hated it before, Still hate it now.
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