MCH buffs!

[AmandaLashaquoa]

There is video once mch do 5.3k dps in v1s if anybody interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSM4_vWwss

>iLVl331 and probably BiS.
Yeah, at some point everyone will do 5k+ , its all about item level, my biggest issue with MCH is the current rotation, its boring and its utilities are shit.
I'm pretty friggin sure that a 330ilvl brd could push much more DPS while also helping not only mitigate dmg but enhancing it.

[Galvuu]

>iLVl331 and probably BiS.
Yeah, at some point everyone will do 5k+ , its all about item level, my biggest issue with MCH is the current rotation, its boring and its utilities are shit.
I'm pretty friggin sure that a 330ilvl brd could push much more DPS while also helping not only mitigate dmg but enhancing it.

Pretty sure Dismantle is pretty damn amazing right now.
Especially for Neo Exdeath.
Whether it beats Bard, I can't say for sure, but it should be close if it doesn't.

(You can compare that parse to Miyuri's, her bard's 328 and the difference shouldn't be huge off 3 ilvs when both are using the 345 weapon).

[Velhart]

So I played around with MCH on dummies and on OS1-4 last night. I will say it isn't as doom and gloom as I made it out to be in my previous post. I was fairly quickly able to get the rotation down and I loved seeing significantly higher Wildfire's than before the patch. My DPS certainly has improved. Better than BRD's? Can't say, but I know I am doing more DPS than I was before.

Having actual purpose for Flamethrower is nice and overheat lines up surprisingly well with my Wildfire's. I think my concerns lie in Cooldown being significantly underused compared to patches before and it is just annoying and tedious having to put the GB on every time. It can be easy to forget especially when dealing with mechanics. It seems entirely pointless this function. Why can't we just get rid of GB and have the benefits of it and heat gauge be a permanent thing on MCH? It would make the flow of the job better from doing this alone and people still don't like that ugly add on to their gun even if I can't see it, others can.

Dismantle at 60sec is nice. I am able to put it on more raid busters than I was able to before. Quite interesting how reducing it to 60sec really helped out.

I still find the job clunky feeling and still needs some work on it, but this is at least in the right direction. I am still just baffled how SE could mess this job up so much and still not understand why people are upset with it.

[kupokage]

I couldnt down SSS V4 Savage pre 4.06. I would fail with 7% left at i320. Today I downed it with 3 seconds left BUT with the addition of 2 new i330 accs and now at i321. Take that for whats its worth as I doubt the increase in dex from two i320s accs to two i330s accs alone could shave off 10 seconds off my time (I never use food or pots). I felt a moderate DPS increase with 4.06. Im content for now.

[Savier]

MCH is fine now. It just take a lot of skill. If you can't do it, choose something else. Also...west coast represent, 0 packet loss and sick keybinds, I can press everything like it's nothing. Thanks!!

[Sunako]

I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.

[Lastelli]

I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.

I highly doubt that. MCH dps is very solid right now, maybe a few % points higher than BRD but we'll have to wait a few days to be sure of that. However it's still fairly lower than pure dps jobs like blm and sam. As long as they don't buff Hypercharge, a double ranged meta will probably not happen again in the future. Double ranged was meta in 3.4 because rook hypercharge was only useful to physical jobs (and was a 10% buff) and mnk's dps was lower than a brd/mch's in most encounters (and disembowel debuff was too useful to ranged dps). Also, we had a % difference around 10% between the highest and lowest dps job in 3.4. Now this difference is around 15% so it's not so obvious whether raid utility>personal dps right now.

[Galvuu]

I think mch is better than casters now. Running mch/bard is probably optimal again because mch damage is like same than smn/rdm, blm not have enough damage with 0 utility + they bring hypercharge and can boost foe uptime with refresh. Dismantle is like better version from addle so you dont need caster for anything.

God, I hope not.
Hate pure-physical metas...
If that's true, then RDM might be out of a job too :/

[HopeEstheim]

MCH is amazing ! The rotation make sense now, cooldowns are aligned nicely, and I can outdps my bard, not by a huge margin, but there's less rng involved so... I'm sure MCH dps is superior to BRD dps on average.
Dismantle is really good now, it's close to bard's utility, I love it !

I can understand why people prefered the 4.0 MCH, but I like this one better personally, so it's up to the player I think.

[Xygoz]

MCH is amazing ! The rotation make sense now, cooldowns are aligned nicely,
Dismantle is really good now, it's close to bard's utility, I love it !

Actually Cooldowns have lined up very well on mch for awhile now, giving us more overheat dmg didn't change that.
Dismantle is good? what changed, they lowered its cooldown...that...is...all As its been said many times tanks already take reprisal for raids so what makes this skill great?
Close to bards Utility, Sure only if you ignore Battle Voice, The Warden's Paean, Troubadour, Nature's Minne, Foe Requiem, and the crit buff they give for there songs.
Just to be clear as well MCH utility Dismantle, Hypercharge...

MCH just doesn't have the same level of flexibility that bard has which is fine imo, but that being said mch needs more dps to make up for its lack of support. This is very difficult to do without touching bard, because of bards rng it can out dps a MCH.