4.06 patch notes up

**RLofOBFL** · 08-09-2017 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by Alberel

Which is precisely the point. The devs don't have a clue what they're doing with the job any more. They believed Sustain to be a useless skill and removed it, and yet believed Tri-Bind to be useful enough to be kept. There's no logic in that choice. All of the changes to SMN from 4.0 on have clearly had little to no thought put into them.

Tri Bind is the mandatory bind skill every caster has actually. Because back in the day Bind actually did something. Pretty useless now though but I think some synced Coils need it.

Sustain on is something I'd want to see back too but it was a dps loss to even use. And you can actually(as annoying as it is to do) just manually move your pets out of any aoe that actually does damage to it. I don't usually see my pet die anyway, the only time I remember consistently was Doma Castle. If it does return it needs to be an oGCD.

**Daralii** · 08-09-2017 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Yeah, so strange that people want to be treated fairly... How dare they?!?!?

Honestly SE should be embarrased that they can't have a world boss without their servers blowing up and d/cing everyone even after limiting the zone to 150 ppl . FF11 could pull off beseiged but ff14 can't handle ixion?

Most of the money XIV makes doesn't get reinvested into XIV, and is instead put into other products(like trying to actually finish XV). I imagine the devs are frustrated by the server infrastructure too.

**Alberel** · 08-09-2017 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Tri Bind is the mandatory bind skill every caster has actually. Because back in the day Bind actually did something. Pretty useless now though but I think some synced Coils need it.

Sustain on is something I'd want to see back too but it was a dps loss to even use. And you can actually(as annoying as it is to do) just manually move your pets out of any aoe that actually does damage to it. I don't usually see my pet die anyway, the only time I remember consistently was Doma Castle. If it does return it needs to be an oGCD.

Sustain being a DPS loss to use is irrelevant though. It's not a DPS skill. It's a support skill to keep your pet up when it takes damage. As for moving your pets out of AOE... that's actually more of a DPS loss than using Sustain since you have to manually place the ground target. That's also ignoring the fact that there are a number of raid-wide AOEs that you cannot move your pet out of that will kill them without healing. A heal skill for our pets is mandatory.

**Gwaeron89** · 08-09-2017 02:53 AM

My initial reaction on these summoner "buffs"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47Ll5n-3hx0

Oh well, guess i just stick with blm for now.

**Senliten** · 08-09-2017 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Tri Bind is the mandatory bind skill every caster has actually. Because back in the day Bind actually did something. Pretty useless now though but I think some synced Coils need it.

Back in the day, bind was still useless, esp for coil. Off the top of my head in T5 you used miasma and had a paladin stun lock the add during twister phase, and for T7 you used miasma to slow and stack the renault(s) to a halt as tribind was aoe and would have ended up hurting the other petrified renaults, causing wipes. Both of those two scenarios were possibly thought by the devs to use bind for said mechanics, but players once more trumped them with digging deeper and finding 'optimal' strats for progression. Further back, it only served temporary use in Wanderers Palace, but only if you didn't have a whm or blm in the party, as their sleep was more effective in speed runs than our binds, and we had a bind limit then iirc.

**Zigabar** · 08-09-2017 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by RLofOBFL

Tri Bind is the mandatory bind skill every caster has actually.

If they really do feel like it's mandatory for all casters to have, then they could add it to the Role Action selection. It's extremely situational and unnecessary to be a main ability when we have better options, like Sustain.

**Shurrikhan** · 08-09-2017 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Zigabar

If they really do feel like it's mandatory for all casters to have, then they could add it to the Role Action selection. It's extremely situational and unnecessary to be a main ability when we have better options, like Sustain.

Or they could leave it with separate names, animations, and slightly varying functionality... If it were truly mandatory AND moved to Role Skills, you'd have to sacrifice another Role Skill to carry it. If it's "mandatory" and a native skill, you can always just... not put it on your bar if you think otherwise.

a.k.a. (Role-Skill Rampart was no more or less than an awkward and roundabout WAR defensive buff.)

**Brill_** · 08-09-2017 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Yeah, so strange that people want to be treated fairly... How dare they?!?!?

Honestly SE should be embarrased that they can't have a world boss without their servers blowing up and d/cing everyone even after limiting the zone to 150 ppl . FF11 could pull off beseiged but ff14 can't handle ixion?

Beseiged had a zone cap. Those that got in, it was laggy.

**Snow_Princess** · 08-09-2017 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Whocareswhatmynameis

Yeah, so strange that people want to be treated fairly... How dare they?!?!?

Honestly SE should be embarrased that they can't have a world boss without their servers blowing up and d/cing everyone even after limiting the zone to 150 ppl . FF11 could pull off beseiged but ff14 can't handle ixion?

Yep, and that was 720 people with crap ton of npcs and bosses and monsters and lots of stuff, sure it was laggy but it wasn't crashing the zone and freezing for 20 seconds at a time.

**Jhett_Magnum** · 08-09-2017 08:53 AM

I feel like people are forgetting that SMN is still tied to ACN. I think it's the fact that if you buff SMN it indirectly buffs SCH.

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