Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
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Excuse me, but what is the point of looking for that one specific instance where Summoner is better than normally?! Fights have different mechanics to them. Fights heavy in short-range AoE will lower melee DPS without affecting ranged DPS, for example. Similarly donut-shaped AoE's will do the reverse. Then there is the amount of dodging that affects cast times etc. That's why looking for specific fights at specific percentiles is just pointless.

What matters is the top and bottom, as in, the "I can't suck any more than this, so this is the minimum you'll get from me" and "I'm nigh perfect and this is the peak of my abilities" results, across the varied bosses that are relevant.
And that's this and this.

Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
SMN complaints have never been about DMG, but more about its lack of fluidity and how playing it feels clunky. Similar to DRG complaints.
I'm pretty sure that the summoner complaints were about all sorts of things. It lacking fluidity and feeling clunky is a problem in how enjoyable it is as a class, but that have zero to do with raiding. Even the least enjoyable class with the worst possible fluidity would still be heavily used if it was simply a powerhouse. Damage is on the other end of the spectrum. That and utility is all that matters in raiding. A class that excels at these things will be heavily used, but that won't mean it will be popular outside of raids if it is not enjoyable.

So yes, people DID complain about damage AND the fact that the class is no enjoyable to play both. That's because it is a "DPS" with minimal utility. It should show greater numbers than utility-DPS like Ninja or Red Mage, because it doesn't offer much beyond in normal run (and no, Resurrection itself is something useful, but ideally it should never be needed).