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  1. #31
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    Bernkastelx's Avatar
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    Clown Conductor
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    Lamia
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Can't blame people getting even more frustrated over these band aid fixes which mind you could have been done during their other band aid patch. Which also 90% of the time ignore feedback from the community that is even crunching the numbers for them. Even I am a little upset seeing the 10% to 20% revert that imo should have been tried out first before doing all this other stuff to the heat mechanic.
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    Last edited by Bernkastelx; 08-08-2017 at 01:54 PM.

  2. #32
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkobra View Post
    What level's your Machinist again?
    Does it matter? The fixes won't do a damn thing. Bard still has far superior utility and pulls higher damage. Nothing changed except Ninja does even more damage, which is laughable. And for some reason, they are hell bent on keeping Life of the Dragoon slow but piled up Dragoon's base damage instead. Summoner? What they did is a bloody joke.
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  3. #33
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Man if I were at SE reading this thread it would just frustrate me.

    These...are...band aid...fixes. These were never going to be huge overhauls. They said bigger changes would be coming in 4.1 repeatedly, but people simply don't pay attention and want to complain and moan. I get that some jobs, like SMN, are frustrated but these fixes were never intended to be the be all end all for your job. Your day in the sun will come. Relax.
    They could of done a lot more than 10 potency increase in 2 skills.
    Js. These "bandaids" are a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.
    Hope I never have you in my party. You're the biggest race here but you don't see us not inviting you for blocking views.
    Pointless and rude comment.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 08-08-2017 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Edited and added.

  4. #34
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    Anko1400's Avatar
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    Shiny Magikarp
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.
    That's kind of ignorant of you... It's not like it's the players fault for this you shouldn't blame them and exclude them just because they like/want to play SMN.

    Blame Yoshi but also don't be a jackweeb to your fellow community whom just so happen to like SMN...
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  5. #35
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    vio_p's Avatar
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    Shizuno Urushibaa
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    Cerberus
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Furiea View Post
    good change on Ixion fate drops.. (i just got mine a few days ago)
    I can see why the change was needed so that they could speed up decreasing the amount of people in the loches, but I dont agree with it. Its basically made it a lot easier for people to get where as those who gained it pre nerf have kind of been shat on by making it more easily obtainable, I know it was in the first place but only by those who had more patience than others and in all honesty farming 6 of them at 2 horns per gold rank wasnt bad at all. The issue with that stemmed from the hoards who flooded the map to get on the kill which caused disconnects and those who refused to put their choco's away, so players lost out due to this.
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  7. #36
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    Medicine's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Tyurru Irisfield
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by vio_p View Post
    I can see why the change was needed so that they could speed up decreasing the amount of people in the loches, but I dont agree with it. Its basically made it a lot easier for people to get where as those who gained it pre nerf have kind of been shat on by making it more easily obtainable, I know it was in the first place but only by those who had more patience than others and in all honesty farming 6 of them at 2 horns per gold rank wasnt bad at all. The issue with that stemmed from the hoards who flooded the map to get on the kill which caused disconnects and those who refused to put their choco's away, so players lost out due to this.
    I'm very glad they decided to increase the drop rate, right now on my server it's currently impossible to get into the instance without having to wait for hours... The faster people get their tacky pony the better.
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  8. #37
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    Darkobra's Avatar
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    Darkobra Kage
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    Phoenix
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Does it matter? The fixes won't do a damn thing. Bard still has far superior utility and pulls higher damage. Nothing changed except Ninja does even more damage, which is laughable. And for some reason, they are hell bent on keeping Life of the Dragoon slow but piled up Dragoon's base damage instead. Summoner? What they did is a bloody joke.
    Of course it does. You're able to speak with knowledge, experience and facts if you've actually played the class. You can further instruct Square on the issues of the class. It's how fixes come around.

    I don't play Summoner anymore. I haven't since Heavensward. That means if I was to give ANY Summoner advice, I wouldn't know what's lacking, what's strong, what's missing. Now I've read a few of the threads about the class and a few replies. Hell, even in this thread, it appears that the issues weren't addressed at all by Square. So I'd be more prone to take their knowledge and experiences over my own.
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  9. #38
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    Ranulf's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Ranulf Squires
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I know ya'll regret adding Summoner, but what you're doing to the job now is just...

    Insert Joanne the Scammer holding up the petty sign.
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    Last edited by Ranulf; 08-08-2017 at 02:05 PM. Reason: Image wouldn't post

  10. #39
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    ..
    That imo would fix drg, as of right now its not a fun class to play, at least to me
    It's still fun for me.. just a little bit more stressful than it has to be. I think the only fix we really need is permanent eyes. If I didn't have to OMFGHURRYUPANDPULL a whole dungeon I'd be fine with my rotation. I also agree DS needs a little tweak to how it's targeted. We've never had a selecttarget-cast before so it's a little wonky in my rotation. I've been told to make a macro for it and i will soon, but I don't think they thought it through very well.

    BUT.. as has been said, major changes come later, for now we got a little buff and I'm happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by vio_p View Post
    Its basically made it a lot easier for people to get where as those who gained it pre nerf have kind of been shat on by making it more easily obtainable....
    I get you spent extra time getting yours and hey.. now it's easier. But it doesn't make YOURS any less special. You had it while the crazyness was going on.. now more people do. I don't see the problem.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 08-08-2017 at 02:04 PM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  11. #40
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    ReclusiveMage's Avatar
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    Eyriwolk Frydnahctsyn
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I was hoping White Mage would get some changes to Plenary Indulgence in this little patch.
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