Thread: 4.06 patch notes up

Originally Posted by Anko1400

I just want them to fix the issue with Bahamut not attacking unless he's literally parked behind you... that can't be intentional right...? If it is then yes, Yoshi has no idea what to do with SMN anymore...

To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.

Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

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A 50 potency buff to our 4th tier combos is a pretty significant damage increase missed-positionals aside, which you shouldn't be missing your positionals on them period since they are no longer random procs. Granted none of these changes are the ones dragoons needed, still no adjustments to how long it takes us to build up eyes in LOTD, which is the real issue.

Machinist main here: I think there's some good, but I'm on the fence right now.

Since SB came out, there's been a lot of debate on whether it was intended to stay between 50-95 Heat or if we were supported to line Wildfire up with Overheated. I think the changes make it clear what's intended, and makes it more worth it to try and pull off (20% damage over 10% damage) and less punishing to get wrong (2 second recast on GB vs 10 seconds).

Increased heat generation from Flamethrower also makes it easier to Overheat, though I would have preferred 4.0's heat generation (10 from heated shots, -10 from QR, more frequent Cooldown use)

Increased HS duration means we only refresh it once a minute- Small DPS increase, since it's our weakest weaponskill.

Lowered CD on Dismantle is also nice, but the timing on it is still really tight- It only lasts for 5 seconds, which makes it not as effective as it should be in some instances. (Susano EX- Every Ukehi after the first goes off 3 times, but you can only really mitigate 2/3 hits with Dismantle.) A duration of 10 seconds would be very helpful.

These changes aren't bad, there's a lot of convenience here, and Overheating being worth it now returns some fun/challenge to the job, especially after a lot of people (myself included) felt like 4.05 made it way too easy with how slowly Heat was generated. But...

Bard still has bigger, better utility, and I'm not totally convinced yet that these changes will be enough to give Machinist an edge over them when it comes to DPS. I don't think this is enough to deal with the stigma MCH faces in groups right now, but I'd need to play it for a bit before I can speculate on what other changes it needs going forward. (My guess for now: Probably some potency buffs, and/or raising Hot Shot from +8% Damage to +10%)

Originally Posted by Jybril

I am under the impression they just don't care about the job anymore and hate the hell out of it to be honest.

They kinda do. In the past they said something about regretting adding Summoner because people demand so much from it. Now that the demands are actually about gameplay and are justified, they really shouldn't turn a blind eye from it.
But I'm patient so I hope they actually make MAJOR changes in 4.1.

Man if I were at SE reading this thread it would just frustrate me.

These...are...band aid...fixes. These were never going to be huge overhauls. They said bigger changes would be coming in 4.1 repeatedly, but people simply don't pay attention and want to bitch and moan. I get that some jobs, like SMN, are frustrated but these fixes were never intended to be the be all end all for your job. Your day in the sun will come. Relax.

*laughs at the Bard quality of life changes*

Bard now indisputably has the best all around package in terms of how skill mechanics flow. Considering how drastic (and overall well-received) the jump from HW to SB Bard was, I almost wonder if the Bard overhaul was a personal pet project of someone on the dev team, while everyone else is working on multiple jobs at once. Because the careful attention Bard has been getting is pretty unreal.

Originally Posted by Bernkastelx

Should be the lockout after overheat.

I hope you're right.

Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.

Since your so much bigger compared to my character I won't be inviting you to my party. Since you block my view.