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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Man if I were at SE reading this thread it would just frustrate me.

    These...are...band aid...fixes. These were never going to be huge overhauls. They said bigger changes would be coming in 4.1 repeatedly, but people simply don't pay attention and want to complain and moan. I get that some jobs, like SMN, are frustrated but these fixes were never intended to be the be all end all for your job. Your day in the sun will come. Relax.
    They could of done a lot more than 10 potency increase in 2 skills.
    Js. These "bandaids" are a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    To be honest I couldn't care less what dmg Summoner does, as until they move Bahamut or make him transparent I won't be inviting a Summoner.
    Hope I never have you in my party. You're the biggest race here but you don't see us not inviting you for blocking views.
    Pointless and rude comment.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 08-08-2017 at 01:58 PM. Reason: Edited and added.

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    Player RaizeGraymalkin's Avatar
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    Volta Fross
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    They could of done a lot more than 10 potency increase in 2 skills.
    Js. These "bandaids" are a joke.

    Hope I never have you in my party. You're the biggest race here but you don't see us not inviting you for blocking views.
    Pointless and rude comment.
    Again...until I'm blue in the face...bigger...changes...are...coming...in...4.1. Expecting major things, from band aids is moronic on the individuals part. And even then, with these "band aids" they've fixed a lot of stuff. Is there still work to do? Of course, but let's not act like they haven't done good with them thus far.
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    Sparhawk Kennis
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Again...until I'm blue in the face...bigger...changes...are...coming...in...4.1.
    I've heard "oh they will fix things next major patch" far too many times over the years of mmorpgs and it rarely actually happens.
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparhwk View Post
    I've heard "oh they will fix things next major patch" far too many times over the years of mmorpgs and it rarely actually happens.
    In this case the sentence is actually appropriate and the dev team has followed through on the promise before.

    Read up on the 2.0 -> 2.1 Warrior changes if you want proof.
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    Player RaizeGraymalkin's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparhwk View Post
    I've heard "oh they will fix things next major patch" far too many times over the years of mmorpgs and it rarely actually happens.
    Except they have, in the past, and have even made some nice changes with the recent hotfixes already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Again...until I'm blue in the face...bigger...changes...are...coming...in...4.1. Expecting major things, from band aids is moronic on the individuals part. And even then, with these "band aids" they've fixed a lot of stuff. Is there still work to do? Of course, but let's not act like they haven't done good with them thus far.
    -Looks at AST that took an entire expansion to fix them looks back to you and blinks-
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    Vincent Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    -Looks at AST that took an entire expansion to fix them looks back to you and blinks-
    A thousand times this. They can't even balance well as it is, I don't get why people think any changes are going to be grounded in reality.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaizeGraymalkin View Post
    Man if I were at SE reading this thread it would just frustrate me.

    These...are...band aid...fixes. These were never going to be huge overhauls. They said bigger changes would be coming in 4.1 repeatedly, but people simply don't pay attention and want to bitch and moan. I get that some jobs, like SMN, are frustrated but these fixes were never intended to be the be all end all for your job. Your day in the sun will come. Relax.
    Sorry but this excuse doesn't fly. Scholars got Miasma II back in the previous minor patch. There's no reason they couldn't have at least given Summoners back Sustain in this one.

    The potency changes themselves are entirely tone deaf to the actual problems Summoner currently faces as well. The job doesn't have any potency issues (barring maybe Akh Morn). The simplest bandaid fix numbers-wise would have been to ease up on the damage falloff on Bane, Deathflare and Akh Morn.

    The devs seem to be entirely clueless about what the problems with the job are. These changes are just depressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    Sorry but this excuse doesn't fly. Scholars got Miasma II back in the previous minor patch. There's no reason they couldn't have at least given Summoners back Sustain in this one.
    the reason is obviously because they don't want to.
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