Thread: 4.06 patch notes up

Originally Posted by Yeol

SMN average dps on 90th percentiles is 4,038.

4k smn. Idk if this is a joke or legit. Im using a parser and the highest smn ive ever seen at least in savage was 3.2k.

Originally Posted by Yeol

I added an image reference

A random pic doesnt mean anything. SS of parsers, logs etc. And what are these parses in that pic? Are they from sims?

Originally Posted by Yeol

Now if people are not happy with SMN playstyle that is a different story. But damage wise, it should be balanced now.

That isn't a fair comparison since Ninja, Bard and Red Mage bring far superior utility, especially during progression. You also have to account for who had ASTs padding their numbers and the amount of good versus bad players. Summoner doing crap damage isn't why it's being kicked to the curb though. It lacks any real identity and basically gets stepped on by Black Mage, Red Mage and a triple melee comp.

Originally Posted by kikix12

If I understand that correctly, that image actually shows that the poster is grossly mistaken. Summoners are vastly inferior to all other classes with exception of Machinist.

DPS is an average based on <parses> amount of people. In other words, an average from 1223 people is 4038. However, the "cap" is the maximum, meaning that a good player will do more damage, 4751,1 in case of Summoner but over five thousand in the case of all but Dragoon and Machinist. A 10% increase in damage is already significant, especially with Red Mages and Ninja's greater amount of utility.

Exactly. My FFlog medium is garbage since I ran with 310 gear and died lol. Even if I went on to clear with 95% A1S every single time for twenty weeks. My average will remain lower because of those first few bad runs.

I do understand utility which is why I did not comment on it. I was talking about the job dps, not what it brings to the party. Becuase this is what the comments on this post was more focused on.

People were saying SMN dps was crap I just showed that is isn't as bad as people think.
Now if we talk about the job utility that is a different story. RDM >>> SMN.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

... People camped The Loches for hours. On medium to larger servers, it was literally impossible to zone into the instance Ixion spawned because people had flooded it. There is no skill involved with getting the mount. You either camped the instance or waited until someone called it...

I can't like this statement enough (and subsequent posts with similar sentiments).

It was never a mount with any real prestige associated with it beyond the very first 6-8 spawns on each server. Getting upset/insulted over it is like... throwing a fit that people can suddenly buy year-old seasonal event gear they missed on the Mogstation because it somehow ruins the prestige of the old event gear that took the colossal effort of cutscenes and running around.

Sorry, the oversized miniature horse-zebra with 80's hair and a Burning Wall shard lodged in its head just isn't intended to be some elusively rare thing/ twisted rite of passage. It intrigues me how some people think this mount is gated behind any sort of skill or entitlement (ugh, I hate using that word).