Thread: 4.06 patch notes up

Why did dragoon even need this buff? It was already amongst the top dps(if not the top one) in high end content with a proper build and if played right.
And dayum. That summoner "buff" was absolutely savage. I am now fully convinced that its not that they dont know how to fix summoner, its that they dont really want to.
One a positive note, mch did get something out of this and is steadily getting back on its feet. Kinda missed all those mch! And the bard tweaking seems very carefully made.
Also praise the sun for no auto logout!!!!

At the moment, SMN is doing same DPs as BRD and MCH, with DoTs buff they should be doing same as NIN and RDM.

SMN average dps on 90th percentiles is 4,038.
NIN and RDM average dps on 90th percentiles is 4,147 and 4,167.
Image referance.

The difference is small, but only end game players care about it enough to call SMN shit and everyone else is following them blindly without understanding why.

Now if people are not happy with SMN playstyle that is a different story. But damage wise, it should be balanced now.

Originally Posted by Yeol

SMN average dps on 90th percentiles is 4,038.

4k smn. Idk if this is a joke or legit. Im using a parser and the highest smn ive ever seen at least in savage was 3.2k.

Originally Posted by Solica

4k smn. Idk if this is a joke or legit. Im using a parser and the highest smn ive ever seen at least in savage was 3.2k.

I added an image reference

Originally Posted by Yeol

I added an image reference

A random pic doesnt mean anything. SS of parsers, logs etc. And what are these parses in that pic? Are they from sims?

Originally Posted by Solica

A random pic doesnt mean anything. SS of parsers, logs etc. And what are these parses in that pic? Are they from sims?

Here you go. Browse as you please.

Just because you are not running into a good SMN doesn't mean SMN is not breaking 4k or close to it at least.

Originally Posted by Yeol

Now if people are not happy with SMN playstyle that is a different story. But damage wise, it should be balanced now.

That isn't a fair comparison since Ninja, Bard and Red Mage bring far superior utility, especially during progression. You also have to account for who had ASTs padding their numbers and the amount of good versus bad players. Summoner doing crap damage isn't why it's being kicked to the curb though. It lacks any real identity and basically gets stepped on by Black Mage, Red Mage and a triple melee comp.

Originally Posted by kikix12

If I understand that correctly, that image actually shows that the poster is grossly mistaken. Summoners are vastly inferior to all other classes with exception of Machinist.

DPS is an average based on <parses> amount of people. In other words, an average from 1223 people is 4038. However, the "cap" is the maximum, meaning that a good player will do more damage, 4751,1 in case of Summoner but over five thousand in the case of all but Dragoon and Machinist. A 10% increase in damage is already significant, especially with Red Mages and Ninja's greater amount of utility.

Exactly. My FFlog medium is garbage since I ran with 310 gear and died lol. Even if I went on to clear with 95% A1S every single time for twenty weeks. My average will remain lower because of those first few bad runs.