Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
This opens an old wound, lol. Like, it does seem clear that Ramuh is a skewed, aged Rhalgr adoption. That much is easy; look at The Spire.

But it bothers me so much that a Crystal of Light was somehow a primal's to give away. I wonder if the "Old Man of the Wood" was actually a former Warrior of Light that gave his Crystal of Light to the Sylphs, it being of their element and all that, and this Archon simply got caught up in the Rhalgr-incarnate mythology. I can buy that Ramuh knows so much because the Sylphs believe him to be intelligent, and so he is, but a Crystal of Light? A sliver of Hydaelyn's power gifted to Her chosen? A primal's to give away?
That always bothered me, when hraesvelgr told us that primals are essentially what we imagine given form it really irked me because of our past iteration with Garuda and Ramuh.
I think you might be onto something however with that wol (or echo gifted) theory, but I wonder, what actually happens to echo gifted ppl turned into primals? when they are desummoned to their will cease to exist? or the simple existence of tempered is an anchor for their beign to this world?