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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyran-Varlsen View Post
    [Garuda's] followers call her beautiful, but is this a sign that they consider themselves ugly?
    "It's okay. Everyone's furry for Krystal fleshy for Garuda." - Ixali Proverb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyran-Varlsen View Post
    When it comes to the Primals like Ifrit, Titan, Leviathan, Ravana, Bismark and even Susano there is no disconnect from follower to gods due to appearance because these primals represent a manifestation of power or a cultural point of reverence. But with Primals like Garuda and Ramuh, it seems a developer blurp to just design them to look so alien to their followers that they could be Hyur gods. Lakshmi also kinda falls into this despite the fact she looks far more like her followers than Garuda, and I say this because she has no snake features (fangs, scales) upon her that we can see (though she may have a tail under her billowy dress).
    Ramuh is implied to be sylphs' interpretation of Rhalgr (as the old man of the woods)
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    There is actually a very cool in game reason for Garuda to have a mostly human appearance.

    **Spoilers for Heavensward Below**

    In the latter parts of Heavensward, the heroes travel to a gigantic floating island created by the Allagans called Azys La. It was a legendary research base, and contains a great many chimeric creations. One of the dungeons here, the Fractal Continuum, features many. One of the most curious examples is the Ixallion , who appear to be winged Ixal. The lore on them claims that they were soldiers created to put down rebellions on the surface and that they had an unstable genetic structure. Curiously, this relates to the Ixal culture's belief in Atylan, the floating continent, the 'gods' they were warriors for, and the loss of their wings. The Lore Book posits that the commander of the Garuda Airborne Division was a beautiful female general. It stands to reason (albeit implied) that the Garuda we know is a mythologized form of this human commander.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaesarCV View Post
    There is actually a very cool in game reason for Garuda to have a mostly human appearance.

    **Spoilers for Heavensward Below**

    In the latter parts of Heavensward, the heroes travel to a gigantic floating island created by the Allagans called Azys La. It was a legendary research base, and contains a great many chimeric creations. One of the dungeons here, the Fractal Continuum, features many. One of the most curious examples is the Ixallion , who appear to be winged Ixal. The lore on them claims that they were soldiers created to put down rebellions on the surface and that they had an unstable genetic structure. Curiously, this relates to the Ixal culture's belief in Atylan, the floating continent, the 'gods' they were warriors for, and the loss of their wings. The Lore Book posits that the commander of the Garuda Airborne Division was a beautiful female general. It stands to reason (albeit implied) that the Garuda we know is a mythologized form of this human commander.

    I never did that dungeon or read the lore book. That is actually quite interesting.

    I had always suspected that a great many of the strange tribes inhabiting Eorzea were artificially created by the Allagan, and it seems true in the case of the Vira and the Ixali. Which makes me wonder who else the Allagans created in ages past.
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    It's additionally worth considering that individuals can find beauty outside of their own race. No one thinks it odd for someone to appreciate a horse's beauty, for instance, or even an airplane's. The Ixali may consider Garuda to be beautiful because of her magnificent wings (FOUR of them, no less!), as well as her very nature as a being capable of flight, and the Hyur-like features are just part of the package.
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    Actually the Ananta quite likely predated Allagan manipulation. Rather they seem likely to have been the 'material' for experimentation. They certainly weren't the only beast tribe the Allagans messed with.
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    Actually I think the proto-Ixal were called the Iksalion based on this picture:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyran-Varlsen View Post
    Actually I think the proto-Ixal were called the Iksalion based on this picture:

    Whoa. Am I mistaken, then, in drawing the conclusion that the beast tribes are the descendants of construct created by Allag for various purposes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delily View Post
    Whoa. Am I mistaken, then, in drawing the conclusion that the beast tribes are the descendants of construct created by Allag for various purposes?
    We can be certain that Allag at least created the Ixal, and we can be certain that Allag didn't create them all, as there are bits of flavor-text scattered around implying that Allag experimented with already extant beast tribes to create new chimeras. (Unless they created those, too, and then came back for them later...? lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    We can be certain that Allag at least created the Ixal, and we can be certain that Allag didn't create them all, as there are bits of flavor-text scattered around implying that Allag experimented with already extant beast tribes to create new chimeras. (Unless they created those, too, and then came back for them later...? lol)
    Thanks! Interesting, I need to go back and read those books.
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